Posted on 12/16/2009 7:00:51 PM PST by Shellybenoit
In Copenhagen the gathering of the International Church of Global Warming Moonbats is ignoring the Climategate scandal as they do their best to pass their agenda of transferring of income from the developed to the undeveloped world.
While the Moonbats were playing a denial Climategate got much, much bigger. The Russians just dropped this huge bombshell just as the world’s big-shots are gathering in Copenhagen to discuss ways of carbon-taxing the developed world back into the stone-age. What the Russians found out is that Dr, Jones and the folks at CPU weren't using all the data from Siberia. In fact they threw out all of the Russian Data except for the 25% that helped them prove their case.Read this from the RIA Novisti Newswire
(Excerpt) Read more at yidwithlid.blogspot.com ...
that’s funny ;) and sad at the same time ;(
I never thought I’d have to say this, but that could be in our future.
I wonder what Ronald Reagan would think of all of this? 20 years ago the Wall fell and now, our country has fallen.
Or perhaps the Russians prefer to play both sides of the coin. If you are going to brainwash the masses for a geopolitical advantage, why not also use the opportunity to eventually profit from increasing your control of Global Trade. Just shows that the Neo-Russians are running literal circles around the DC Comics. Which of course is not that difficult of a trick nowadays. So basically, the collapse of the AGW Industry, was in the original plan. Now we continue forward into an extended period of cooling, while Russia controls the major energy pipelines into Western Europe. But don't worry, Arnold has a plan to build Windmills.
That is an interesting thought.
McCain and Graham, but that is okay. Perhaps they will be replaced by a conservative.
fyi
“Does anyone have a clue what “JGR” and “GRL” mean?”
I think “JGR” is the Journal of Geophysical Research, and that “GRL” is Geophysical Research Letters.
As a major oil and gas exporter, it would hardly be in Russia's best interests to promote the theory of AGW caused by emissions of carbon-based energy. Unlike the US under its present hapless government, Russia puts the interests of Russia first.
So—who would have the codes to the computers at the East Anglia Climate Research Unit? How about someone leftover from the organization that essentially CREATED the CRU at East Anglia years ago, or Vladimir Putin, formerly of the KGB.
Margaret Thatcher, hardly a KGB agent, is responsible for the CRU at UEA, as part of her effort to counteract the coalminers union. (See her May 1990 speech opening Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research at the official Margaret Thatcher website here.)
Well, I’ll take your word for it that Thatcher officially opened the CRU—and of course I admire Thatcher. But the ability of the KGB to penetrate institutions that you otherwise might imagine were anti-communist was legendary back in the day—in fact, only earlier this year was one of the higher-ups in the Orthodox church exposed as a long-ago KGB plant.
And the Russia I’m talking about is not today’s nation (which would naturally want to expose GW as a fraud—THAT is my point) but the Soviet Union of yesteryear that might have launched the fraud as an operation meant to disrupt the west.
If you read the Mitrochin KGB archives you find a number of incidents where a longstanding KGB op was undone by a more recent KGB op, in some cases deliberately and is some casesentirely because the left hand did not even realize the right hand was part of the same body.
The question remains: why is Russia is the source of the Climategate leaks? (Assuming of course it is.) How come Russia has a way into the computer systems at CRU that no one else seems to have?
What shocks me is that the Russians would reveal this. It is in their interest for the hoax to continue as it would burden the west with pointless taxes, make us weaker and reduce us to a third world power as Zero, the Muslims, and the Russians so desire.
Your points are valid but an over-riding concern is that countries will then move away from petro-products and Russia wants to sell petro-products - *lots* of petro-products.
So in the long run it is better for them to crush the AGW crowd if convenient and now is probably as convenient a time as will ever be.
We ought to help them.
Ahhhh.... you make a good point. And I think it makes sense that they are more focused on their short-term economic needs than any long-term “destroy the west” plans. Especially when Zero is doing so much of that latter for them.
Yeah, they really are broke and they have The 0ne to make us the same way so... well, you know.
Will ‘respond to self’ to bring related news.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/climategate/index?tab=articles
Here are some exerpts:
Republicans warn Obama over climate pact
Western Australia Today ^ | December 18, 2009
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:20:41 PM by Schnucki
Republican US lawmakers have sharply assailed President Barack Obama’s approach to climate change, warning the Congress could derail any treaty pledges he makes at global talks in Denmark.
“Our purpose here is to remind the president and his representatives to make clear to the international community that the president does not have authority to bind the United States in any international agreement, in Copenhagen or anywhere else,” said Republican Senator Jon Kyl of Arizona on Thursday.
The lawmaker underlined that the US Constitution requires Senate ratification of treaties, and that measures that affect government revenues typically need companion US legislation to be enforced.
Kyl, the number two Senate Republican, also expressed deep skepticism about a US commitment of $US100 billion ($A111.02 billion) to a special fund to help developing countries cope with climate change.
“One of the developing
Copenhagen climate conference: Is the whole thing a farce? (Answer is obvious)
Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:21:14 PM · by CedarDave · 5 replies · 68+ views
UK Telegraph ^ | December 17, 2009 | Louise Gray
It is snowing in Copenhagen and the world leaders have gathered to decide how to stop global warming. But after just one week in this city that no longer seems strange. This is the place where thousands of people gather every day to discuss “Lulucf”, “non-papers” and a very important “Little Redd book” that is currently circulating. Where “bingos” and “ringos” and “youngos” fight for space in a maze of meeting rooms. Everyday there are aliens and mermaids and giant polar bears stalking the cavernous conference hall to wave banners in your face calling for a better world and people...
Deniergate: Turning the tables on climate sceptics ( Really?)
Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:02:06 PM · by Ernest_at_the_Beach · 25 replies · 337+ views
New Scientist ^ | 15:54 14 December 2009 | Michael Marshall and Michael Le Page
“Climategate” has put scientists on trial in the court of public opinion. If you believe climate sceptics, a huge body of evidence involving the work of tens of thousands of scientists over more than a century should be thrown out on the basis of the alleged misconduct of a handful of researchers, even though nothing in the hacked emails has been shown to undermine any of the scientific conclusions. If we are going to judge the truth of claims on the behaviour of those making them, it seems only fair to look at the behaviour of a few of...
Climate Change Corruption
Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:56:19 PM · by Raquel · 3 replies · 133+ views
Political Blog ^ | December 17, 2009 | Raquel Okyay
I admit that I have been skeptical of man-made global warming from the get go. For one thing Al Gore does not impress me one bit with his “end of the world” predictions, knowing full well that an ulterior motive is at bay. But it wasn’t until I started reading “Climate Change Reconsidered — The Report of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change” (“Reconsidered”) that I realized that not only does it appear that Gore is dead wrong on his (and others) theory of man-made climate change, but the entire movement, that bases its findings on biased and inconclusive...
Obama still going to Copenhagen; Update: Blizzard hits Copenhagen
Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:04:35 PM · by Ernest_at_the_Beach · 38 replies · 655+ views
Hot Air ^ | 12:55 pm on December 17, 2009 | Ed Morrissey
With the conference at Copenhagen collapsing and China balking at anything more than a mission statement, some have begun to wonder whether Barack Obama will follow through on his commitment to attend it this weekend. After all, Obama has already come home from Copenhagen empty-handed once this year. Would he risk doing it again? ABC’s Sunlen Miller and Yunji de Nies say yes: Despite some rumors swirling in Copenhagen that the lack of progress at the ongoing climate change summit will cause President Obama to cancel his attendance tomorrow, the White House says no – the President is still committed...
They Don’t Love Nature – They Just Hate Mankind
Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:56:16 AM · by American Dream 246 · 1 replies · 141+ views
hotair.com/greenroom ^ | 12/17/09 | hotair.com/greenroom
That was my honest, stunned conclusion some years ago about the “environmentalist” movement; if anything, the evidence of anti-human insanity has become even clearer since then: The increasingly violent, even murderous tactics of terrorist groups like the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) and the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and their enablers — Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Wildlife Fund, and other ostensibly “mainstream” environmentalist organizations; The callous disregard of real science in the zeal for “reducing the human footprint” (eventually to zero)… accompanied on the side by mindless chanting, drumming, and puppetry in place of reason,...
Climategate: Faster and Faster, the Dominos Fall
Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:37:26 AM · by AJKauf · 7 replies · 957+ views
Pajamas Media ^ | Dec. 17 | Charlie Martin
The Climategate files were made public just a month ago, and the email messages that were revealed have already had real impact. The emails show us scientists being petty and political, even corrupt. Suppressing dissenting science and perhaps even violating the law to prevent data from being shared with the rest of the world. They show us people with failings, egos against egos. But the emails themselves aren’t enough to call the overall science of CO2-driven, human-caused climate change into question. The Climategate emails, however, make up only five percent of the Climategate files. The other 95 percent, the programs...
Gov Palin Responds to WAPO’s Robinson Re Climate Change
Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:57:20 AM · by sarah fan UK · 31 replies · 1,635+ views
Washington Post ^ | 17 Dec 2009 | Sarah Palin
I’d like to thank Eugene Robinson for highlighting Alaska’s achievements on climate change [”Palin’s own ‘Climate- gate,’ “ op-ed, Dec. 15] and for noting that I’ve “treated the issue as serious, complex, and worthy of urgent attention,” while making “any number of pragmatic, reasonable, smart decisions as governor.” But he’s wrong to suggest that my views have somehow changed or that now I’ll have to “renounce” my past efforts. Continues....
EverGreens: After Failure, Warmists Will Change Hats And Move On
Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:38:38 AM · by AJKauf · 6 replies · 410+ views
Pajamas Media ^ | Dec. 16 | William M. Briggs
The Russian revelations about data manipulation, like the rest of the Climategate story, will be resolutely ignored by negotiators. Some kind of real-money deal will emerge. There’s too much momentum and too much vanity on the line. The One himself will even appear on the icy slopes of Denmark. You simply cannot have so many celebrities and political will in one place, and expect them to concede defeat. It is just not in their nature. But that’s an easy prediction. What about what comes after? First, the greeny groups will smell blood in the water. They will use the Copenhagen...
Climate Gate, Political Correctness, Allah, and Sammy on G. Gordon Liddy
Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:43:27 AM · by Shellybenoit · 2 replies · 147+ views
G. Gordon Liddy/The Lid ^ | 12/17/09 | The Lid
Today I had the extreme pleasure of being a guest on the G.Gordon Liddy Show. Every time I appear on the show its fun, this time was the most fun ever. Originally I was supposed to talk about yesterday’s story about the Russian Climategate Revelation,it was billed as: More on ClimateGate There’s even more to the ClimateGate controversy the mainstream media are ignoring. It turns out that 75% of the climate data accumulated by Russian scientists was ignored by scientists because it their belief of man-made global warming. Sammy Benoit, of YidWithLid.com has more. ....that is where we started, but...
U.S. to contribute to $100B climate fund to help developing countries: Hillary Clinton
Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:21:25 AM · by NoObamaFightForConservatives · 81 replies · 1,281+ views
nydailynews.com ^ | December 17, 2009 | Soraya Roberts
The planet may be saved after all, and it will only cost $100 billion. Just as the Copenhagen climate summit appeared to be on the verge of unraveling, the United States Thursday announced its support of an annual $100 billion climate protection fund, the Associated Press reports. “The US is prepared to work with other countries toward a goal of jointly mobilizing $100 billion a year by 2020 to address the climate change needs of developing countries,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said. Included in the conditions for the US’ contribution, Clinton demanded that China’s emissions reductions be scrutinized...
The Communist cat is out of the climate change bag
Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:32:34 AM · by Stoat · 24 replies · 468+ views
Bookwormroom ^ | December 17, 2009
The Communist cat is out of the climate change bag Bookworm on Dec 17 2009 at 9:28 am | Since the beginning, climate change skeptics have said that the hysteria of the man-made global warming movement, aside from being based on manifestly shoddy and often dishonest science, was in fact a Leftist political gambit. The Communists, having failed to win the world over with a Cold War had regrouped and were seeking to win it over with a warm war. By targeting Western (that is, capitalist) nations as the evildoers in the world’s imminent boiling destruction, and then...
Blizzard Dumps Snow on Copenhagen as Leaders Battle Warming
Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:16:58 AM · by pissant · 18 replies · 610+ views
Bloomberg | 12/17/09 | staff
Title and link only allowed. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601130&sid=a5wStc0K6jhY
EPA CO2 Regulation and Tailoring Rule: Comments end Dec 28, 2009
Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:00:22 AM · by Nobel_1 · 6 replies · 167+ views
Federal Register ^ | 10/27/2009 | EPA
Prevention of Significant Deterioration and Title V Greenhouse Gas Tailoring Rule; Proposed Rule SUMMARY: EPA is proposing to tailor the major source applicability thresholds for greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions under the Prevention of Significant Deterioration (PSD) and title V programs of the Clean Air Act (CAA or Act) and to set a PSD significance level for GHG emissions. This proposal is necessary because EPA expects soon to promulgate regulations under the CAA to control GHG emissions and, as a result, trigger PSD and title V applicability requirements for GHG emissions. The first phase, which would last 6 years, would...
Russian Think Tank Alleges Climate Data Tampered With
Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:37:58 AM · by libstripper · 6 replies · 333+ views
Investors Business Daily ^ | December 17, 2009 | Sean Higgins
The Institute of Economic Analysis, a Moscow-based independent economic think tank, alleged in a paper released Tuesday that climate change data involving Russia appears to have been tampered with. The claim was made based on an analysis of newly available data from the U.K.-based Hadley Center for Climate Change, which is affiliated with the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia. The latter is at the center of the recent “climategate” controversy. The IEA unfortunately does not offer English-language versions of its reports on its Web site. However, Andrei Illarionov, IEA founder and editor of the report, is...
CLIMATE CHANGE ‘LIES’ BY BRITAIN
Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:55:17 AM · by Schnucki · 13 replies · 579+ views
Daily Express (U.K.) ^ | December 17, 2009 | Anil Dawar and Will Stewart
THE Meteorological Office was last night facing accusations it cherry-picked climate change figures in a bid to increase evidence of global warming. UK climatologists “probably tampered with Russian-climate data” to produce a report submitted to world leaders at this week’s Copenhagen summit, it is claimed. The Met Office’s study, which says the first decade of this century has been the warmest on record for 160 years, is being used to trumpet claims that man is causing global warming. But experts at the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis say the British dossier used statistics from weather stations that fit its theory...
Putting our economy in the hands of Chavez fans (what Copenhagen is really about)
Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:42:00 AM · by teddyballgame · 5 replies · 240+ views
Herald Sun ^ | 12/17/09 | Andrew Bolt
President Chavez brought the house down. When he said the process in Copenhagen was “not democratic, it is not inclusive, but isn’t that the reality of our world, the world is really and imperial dictatorship…down with imperial dictatorships” he got a rousing round of applause. When he said there was a “silent and terrible ghost in the room” and that ghost was called capitalism, the applause was deafening. But then he wound up to his grand conclusion – 20 minutes after his 5 minute speaking time was supposed to have ended and after quoting everyone from Karl Marx to Jesus...
Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Interglacial Warmth
Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:59:08 AM · by InterceptPoint · 10 replies · 304+ views
YouTube ^ | December 16, 2009 | CO2science
Nice high quality video debunking the idea that CO2 is a big driver of the earth’s temperature. Make sure you click on the HD button and choose 1080p for best quality.
BOMBSHELL - Russian IEA Claims CRU (Thus NOAA/NASA) Probably Tampered With Their Data
Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46:51 AM · by saganite · 27 replies · 664+ views
Rionovosta ^ | 14 Dec 09 | staff
Climategate has already affected Russia. On Tuesday, the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis (IEA) issued a report claiming that the Hadley Center for Climate Change based at the headquarters of the British Meteorological Office in Exeter (Devon, England) had probably tampered with Russian-climate data. The IEA believes that Russian meteorological-station data did not substantiate the anthropogenic global-warming theory. Analysts say Russian meteorological stations cover most of the country’s territory, and that the Hadley Center had used data submitted by only 25% of such stations in its reports. Over 40% of Russian territory was not included in global-temperature calculations for some...
Hide the Decline ... and More
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:27:27 PM · by XHogPilot · 14 replies · 966+ views
Real Clear Politics ^ | dec 16, 2009 | David Harsanyi
In this country, even a global warming denialist with a carbon fetish and bad intentions has the right to see the inner workings of government. Or, at least, he should. When leaked e-mails recently exposed talk of manipulating scientific evidence on global warming, Kevin Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at The National Center for Atmospheric Research, argued that skeptics had cherry-picked and presented his comments out of context. To rectify this injustice, I sent Trenberth (and NCAR) a Freedom of Information Act request asking for his e-mail correspondences with other renowned climate scientists in an effort to help...
As Copenhagen Falls Apart Filmmaker Phelim McAleer Asks The Tough Questions & Gets Assaulted
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:51:41 PM · by Starman417 · 14 replies · 695+ views
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-16-09 | Curt
Journalist and filmmaker Phelim McAleer, the maker of Not Evil, Just Wrong, has been doing a standup job of showing the hypocrisy inherent in not only the man-made global warming schizo’s but the left side of the aisle as a whole. Here he is questioning the hypocrisy of those “representatives” to the Copenhagen climate change conference who have belittled and shamed people about the effects of flying a plane. Funny how the dismiss McAleer as not worth their trouble. How dare he question them on their “green” credentials. Right? The U.N. estimates 40,500 tons of carbon dioxide will be pumped...
New Climategate SHOCKER: Russians Reveal How CPU “Cooked The Books”
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:00:51 PM · by Shellybenoit · 36 replies · 1,094+ views
RIA Novisti Newswire/The Lid ^ | 12/16/09 | The Lid
In Copenhagen the gathering of the International Church of Global Warming Moonbats is ignoring the Climategate scandal as they do their best to pass their agenda of transferring of income from the developed to the undeveloped world. While the Moonbats were playing a denial Climategate got much, much bigger. The Russians just dropped this huge bombshell just as the world’s big-shots are gathering in Copenhagen to discuss ways of carbon-taxing the developed world back into the stone-age. What the Russians found out is that Dr, Jones and the folks at CPU weren’t using all the data from Siberia. In fact...
Climategate: Something’s Rotten in Denmark … and East Anglia, Asheville, and ...
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:41:50 PM · by CedarDave · 5 replies · 278+ views
Pajamas Media ^ | December 15, 2009 | Joseph D’Aleo
The focus belongs not just on CRU, but on all of the organizations which gather temperature data. All now show evidence of fraud.The familiar phrase was spoken by Marcellus in Shakespeare’s Hamlet — first performed around 1600, at the start of the Little Ice Age. “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” is the exact quote. It recognizes that fish rots from the head down, and it means that all is not well at the top of the political hierarchy. ... The smell in the air may be from the leftover caviar at the banquet tables, or perhaps from...
The dangers of CO2 controls
Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:06:53 PM · by Graybeard58 · 10 replies · 213+ views
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | December 16, 2009 | Editorial
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has entered a strange new world where a substance harmless to fauna and essential to the continued existence of flora is the target of an “endangerment finding.” During its first 36 years, the EPA focused on demonstrably hazardous substances used or emitted by manufacturing and transportation industries, agriculture, energy producers and individuals. The menace du jour is carbon dioxide, a substance for which humans have a high tolerance and without which all plant life would die, and humanity along with it. The argument is CO2 caused by the burning of fossil fuels causes warming because...
Arnold has turned into a giant joke.
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