Limbaugh already down one vote

ESPN ^ | 10/13/2009 | AP

[fiscon1]

Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy the St. Louis Rams ran into opposition within the NFL on Tuesday. Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay vowed to vote against him and commissioner Roger Goodell said the conservative commentator's "divisive" comments would not be tolerated from any NFL insider.

[Digger]

I luv RUSH & been a consistent listener. However, this is some poetic justice. Ole RUSHBO has played the lovable fuzzball, never wanted to get into activism. No, he’ll just talk the subject & joke about the real problems. Now, his joking & lack of activism is at his doorstep & is too late to change. He never once brought up Savage’s issues. In that respect he acted like a RINO & he will suffer from such. As far as the NFL goes this is just a turning point to replace it with alternatives. I’m a strong college FB supporter. That’s enough replacement.

[Digger]

I luv RUSH & been a consistent listener. However, this is some poetic justice. Ole RUSHBO has played the lovable fuzzball, never wanted to get into activism. No, he’ll just talk the subject & joke about the real problems. Now, his joking & lack of activism is at his doorstep & is too late to change. He never once brought up Savage’s issues. In that respect he acted like a RINO & he will suffer from such. As far as the NFL goes this is just a turning point to replace it with alternatives. I’m a strong college FB supporter. That’s enough replacement.

[rintense]

This is from 2006:

NFL Players Arrested This Year

This list is not comprehensive and contains arrests and charges regardless of the resolution of the cases. Outcomes of cases that have been resolved range from the dropping of all charges to guilty pleas and convictions.
Teams are the team the players were with at the time of the arrest(s)

DATE*	PLAYER	TEAM	ARREST CAUSE/CHARGE
Jan. 28	Chris Henry	Bengals	Possession of a concealed firearm, improper exhibition of a firearm, aggravated assault with a firearm
Feb. 12	Terry "Tank" Johnson	Bears	Aggravated assault, resisting arrest (Charges were dropped.)
March 26	Dhani Jones	Eagles	Failure to obey a lawful command
April 14	Shaun Phillips	Chargers	Suspicion of obstructing or resisting an officer in the performance of his duty (No charges were filed.)
April 21	Steve Foley	Chargers	Resisting arrest, drunken driving
April 23	Ricky Manning Jr.	Bears	Assault
April 23	Maurice Jones-Drew	Jaguars	Assault (Charge was dismissed.)
April 23	Tyler Ebell	Bears	Assault (Charge was dropped.)
May 12	Reuben Droughns	Browns	Domestic assault (Case was dropped.)
May 26	Cory Rodgers	Packers	Unlawfully carrying a weapon and discharging a firearm
June 3	Chris Henry	Bengals	DUI
June 3	A.J. Nicholson	Bengals	Burglary, grand theft, vandalism
June 14	Chris Henry	Bengals	Providing alcohol to three underaged females
June 19	Santonio Holmes	Steelers	Domestic violence and assault (Judge dismissed charges.)
June 20	Jabar Gaffney	Patriots	Unlawful possession of a handgun
June 21	Frostee Rucker	Bengals	Vandalism, spousal battery
June 23	Cortland Finnegan	Titans	DUI
July 22	Matthias Askew	Bengals	Disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, failure to comply with a police officer's order, obstructing justice (Acquitted Aug. 24.)
July 22	John Gilmore	Bears	Trespassing, resisting arrest, possession of drug paraphernlia, possession of less than 2.5 grams of marijuana
Aug. 5	Eric Steinbach	Bengals	Boating under the influence
Aug. 6	Barrett Brooks	Steelers	Fleeing and eluding, reckless driving, driving at an unsafespeed and other traffic violations
Aug. 25	Adam "Pacman" Jones	Titans	Disorderly conduct, public intoxication
Aug. 15	Koren Robinson	Vikings	Drunken driving
Sept. 2	Brian Williams	Jaguars	Drunken driving
Sept. 3	Steve Foley	Chargers	DUI
Sept. 25	Odell Thurman	Bengals	Drunken driving
Sept. 26	Terrence Kiel	Chargers	Transporting a controlled substance; possession for sale of a controlled substance (codeine-based cough syrup)
Oct. 3	B.J. Sams	Ravens	DUI (second DUI in 14 months)
Oct. 9	Markus Curry	Chargers	Domestic assault
Oct. 21	Rob Reynolds	Titans	Domestic violence, assault
Oct. 22	Bobby McCray	Jaguars	Reckless driving, possession of a controlled substance (The drug charge was dropped.)
Oct. 26	Adam "Pacman" Jones	Titans	Assault
Nov. 11	Khalif Barnes	Jaguars	DWI
Nov. 11	Marcus Coleman	Cowboys	DWI
Nov. 14	Fred Weary	Texans	Resisting arrest (Judge dismissed the charge.)
Nov. 19	Antonio Bryant	49ers	DWI, reckless driving, resisting arrest
Nov. 27	Cletis Gordan	Chargers	Suspicion of DWI
Nov. 28	Adrian Jones	Jets	DWI
Dec. 3	Reggie McNeal	Bengals	Resisting arrest and drug possession
Dec. 9	Deltha O'Neal	Bengals	DWI
Dec. 14	Terry "Tank" Johnson	Bears	Possession of a firearm without proper identification

* Date of arrest and/or date charges were filed
SOURCES: News reports

RESEARCH BY JULIE TATE AND BONNIE BERKOWITZ - THE WASHINGTON POST

Anyone want to do a racial breakdown of this list? I bet it confirms Rush's Crips and Bloods remark. Of course, anyone who follows the NFL knows his comment was right.

[ConservativeMan55]

bttt

[rintense]

In compiling a list of 308 arrests and citations involving NFL players since 2000, The Union-Tribune could find legal resolutions to 268 incidents. Among the 40 where no legal resolution could be found, most are since June and are still pending. Here is a breakdown of those that were resolved:

Convictions, diversion programs, fines: 68 percent

Dropped without penalty: 26 percent

Acquittals: 6 percent

Most by team

Cincinnati: 23

Minnesota: 21

Kansas City: 19

Fewest by team

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St. Louis 3 (involving two players)

Philadelphia 3

Most common charges

Drunken driving: 32 percent

Fights, assaults and disorderly conduct: 21 percent

Domestic violence/violence against women: 17 percent

Drug-related: 13 percent

Gun-related: 8 percent

REPEAT OFFENDERS

Fifty NFL players have been arrested or cited for more than one crime since January 2000, accounting for at least 122 incidents. Here are the players with at least three incidents:

5 incidents

Chris Henry, Cincinnati

Pacman Jones, Tennessee

4 incidents

Leonardo Carson, Chargers

Steve Foley, Chargers

3 incidents

Jarrod Cooper, Carolina

Sebastian Janikowski, Oakland

Joseph Jefferson, Indianapolis

Tank Johnson, Chicago

Chris McAlister, Baltimore

Kenny Mixon, Minnesota

Michael Pittman, Tampa Bay

Andre Rison, Kansas City

Dwight Smith, Minnesota

David Terrell, Chicago

Eric Warfield, Kansas City

Ricky Williams, Miami

Note: Teams listed are players' teams at time of most recent incident.

LONGEST PRISON SENTENCES

12 years: Dallas safety Dwayne Goodrich, who was convicted of criminally negligent homicide for a 2003 crash

10 years: New York Giants defensive end Jeremiah Parker, who was convicted of second-degree child endangerment for his role in the death of an ex-girlfriend's 4-year-old son in 2001.

MOST INCIDENTS BY POSITION

Defensive backs: 78

Wide receivers: 52

FEWEST INCIDENTS BY POSITION

Quarterbacks: 7

Kickers: 7

Offensive linemen: 34

Offense/defense

Defensive players: 159

Offensive players: 142

NFL ALCOHOL POLICY

“The Commissioner will review and may impose a fine, suspension, or other appropriate discipline if a player is convicted of or admits to a violation of the law (including within the context of a diversionary program, deferred adjudication, disposition of supervision,or similar arrangement including but not limited to nolo contendere) relating to the use of alcohol.

“Absent aggravating circumstances, discipline for a first offense will generally be a fine of one-half (1/2) of one-seventeenth (1/17) of the amount in Paragraph 5 of the NFL Player Contract to a maximum of $20,000. If the Commissioner finds that there were aggravating circumstances, including but not limited to felonious conduct or serious injury or death of third parties, and/or if the player has had prior drug or alcohol-related misconduct, increased discipline up to and including suspension may be imposed.

“Discipline for a second or subsequent offense is likely to be a suspension, the duration of which may escalate for repeat offenses.”

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/2...1s22resolu.html

National Felons league.

[HiramQuick]

You are totally correct on the salary cap ... I decided after I posted that I would dig up the official word on salary cap, and I found exactly what you said. I did not realize the last did not get approval.

And again .. Rush made his point .. all the sport “readers” here have no clue about anything, they are even bigger orons than the lamestream media.... here in SW Ohio they have given the false impression that salary cap is going away. They were to lazy to research it themselves. One should know better to listen to a journalist. (excuse me .. news/propaganda reader)

The teams that thit bottom and then bounce back to top tiers in a year or two do exactly what you say ... they trade down in the draft and bargain shop. The constant bottom cleaners go after that #1 pick year after year after year. The Bengals finally hit one in Carson Palmer (I still think he is suspect) but .. who can forget Akili Smith, Justin Smith, Peter Warrick on and on and on of high bungles pick that are pickin Burgers these days. lol

[TheConservativeParty]

Thanks for the ping. Heck I was still not used to Britt Fart wearing purple...and now some NFL hack is insulting and slandering Rush when he’s offering to buy a team? The news is just more and more strange everyday. Zero got the Nobhead Pizza Prize too...OK everybody more duct tape!!! And don’t forget to drink every time Zero says “notion”!

[Landru]

"I want to know when players like Lynn Swann, who Rush had on his show when Swanny was running for office, will come out and defend him. Walt Williams? Condi Rice? JC Watts? Karl Malone?"

Good questions, all.
Have to wait & see; but, knowing human nature as I *like* to think I do they'll throw him to the wolves & head for the high grass. Sure would love to be wrong, this once.

OTOH was speaking with someone about this. Had to ask how Rush couldn't have suspected he'd get the ESPN treatment. Same group, same result. Surely he's heard "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...".

In hindsight looks like he fell into a deliberate trap designed specifically to make him look like an absolute fool.

State-of-the-art spiteful.

[rintense]

On the contrary, I think he got the usual rat suspects to fall for the same, smelly cheese. In the end, racism will be exposed even further- bolstering his assertion that Obama has done nothing but worsen race relations.

With any ligation win, Rush should donate the money to scholarship funds for black student athletes.

[altair]

The organization is pretty good, but the Irsays have always been a little on the disreputable side. Reference the Baltimore Colts’ midnight move to Indianapolis.

A lot of us were not very happy with how the Rams fled Orange County to St. Louis. Cleveland later got the Browns. metro LA still has yet to get a team since the Raiders and Rams left.

Worse: The Rams left behind the irrevocably damaged Big A in Anaheim which was arguably the 2nd most beautiful major league baseball stadium (behind Dodger Stadium) ... until it was "renovated" for football.

I could possibly see forgiving the Rams who were my favorite childhood team when they played in the Coliseum if Rush were to become an owner, but it would still take some time.

[Landru]

"On the contrary, I think he got the usual rat suspects to fall for the same, smelly cheese."

Really?

"In the end, racism will be exposed even further- bolstering his assertion that Obama has done nothing but worsen race relations."

Fascinating POV there, and, quite plausible.

"With any ligation win, Rush should donate the money to scholarship funds for black student athletes."

Like he did with the letter?
You have some mind there, I need to seek your opin out more often. Nothing short of inspiring. Really. ;^)

As I said to another poster -- after I'd time to calm down, reflect.
This first broke today, this attempted smear, isn't 24 hours old. Let's see what transpires, tomorrow.
If others are to come to his defense they need a least a little time to react. Right?

See anything before I, please, ping me.
I'll do likewise for you, OK? :^)

[Terpfen]

metro LA still has yet to get a team since the Raiders and Rams left.

Los Angeles had two teams and couldn't keep one. No sympathy from me.

[altair]

go after a man who's only crime was words

You're missing some punctuation there or something. I started following[1] Rush in 1988, shortly after he came to KFI. There cannot possibly be a racist bone in that man's body. Cannot be. He has only committed the "crime" of dissent in a society that no longer permits that when certain individuals are involved.

[1] "Following" as in listening to his radio show, later watching his TV show and even later reading his web site and not "following" as in obeying everything he says.

[rintense]

Oh I know that. I’m repeating the words of the ESPN guy. He admitted he’s not a Limbaugh fan, but actually stood up for Rush saying that to him, actions (of NFL criminal players) speak for louder than anything Rush says.

[altair]

Why stir up the hornet’s nest. Limbaugh should have kept this under wraps.

He was. It was leaked. Why do you automatically assume Rush was at fault?

[Outlaw Woman]

Hey NFL: SHUT UP & PLAY FOOTBALL

Hear hear! Your remarks were right on target too. Stopped watching football early 2000's when Rams started going downhill. I remember hearing/reading that the league, at that time, was comprised of 75% minorities. And now.....it should be called the animal league (from what I hear).

[Stayingawayfromthedarkside]

His daddy did it. On ESPN they had a film about the Baltimore Colts band and how they kept playing to show the NFL that Baltimore still wanted a team. Mr. Irsay was lying through his teeth about moving the team.

[conservativebuckeye]

The only two that I know are white are Eric Steinbach and Rob Reynolds. There’s about 5 or 6 on the list I don’t know about, but the others are black. It’s funny seeing Reynolds and Santonio Holmes on the list as they are two of my least favorite Ohio St. players over the last decade. They were both thugs in college. Steinbach’s issue I think was an isolated incident because he’s been a model citizen with the Browns and one of their few good players. Sorry for rambling a bit.

[conservativebuckeye]

Your definition of vulgar is a bit antiquated. Calling the commoners vulgar would be like calling many of us liberals. In the classical sense of the word it might be accurate, but it has taken on a new meeting. You’re probably a good guy but you’re coming across as a snob. What’s so common about Rush? He’s the Babe Ruth of his industry.