Divided Loyalties, Obama’s Eligibility Problem, PART 2

Texas Darlin ^ | July 26, 2008 | Judah Benjamin

[Amityschild]

NOTE by TexasDarlin:

This is the second article in a two-part series by Judah Benjamin challenging the Constitutionality of Barack Obama’s bid for President.

This article was preceded by my Foreword, and by the author’s Part 1, which explores the legal history and definition of “natural born citizen” under Article II of the US Constitution. Those two posts should be read first, and in full.

Part 2 explores the factual basis for Barack Obama’s dual citizenship, and concludes that he has been a citizen of at least two countries, and therefore is ineligible to be President.

[Calpernia]

>>>It’s an armor you cannot defeat by discussing the issues,

It ends the argument.

"Just say no"
- Nancy Reagan, 1982

:)

[Calpernia]

I’m sorry. I misread post 34.

[Calpernia]

post 60.

[Calpernia]

Carter, he never stops giving.

[usmcobra]

Trust me when I teach you will laugh....

If anything the Panama Canal ZONE was a business venture built and run by The United States for the mutual benefit of both governments, and you Zonians were a small part of the government run business that administrated the operations of such.

There is no shame in that and I respect your pride as an American but it was a business ZONE not a territory.

[Calpernia]

Everytime I think I get something, some new piece is added and I return to the land of confusion again.

::note to self, read up on Panama tonight::

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

My apologies.

I forget this has to be very confusing to many (the Canal Zone vs. Panama.)

[usmcobra]

The Panama Canal is and was a business venture, if we had wanted Panama’s territory we could have annexed it instead of making Panama a country.

The United States Navy stopped the Colombians from trying to stop our revolution in Panama by blockading the Colombian armed forces such as they were while a new government was formed. Our Country was the first to recognize Panama and why not, we created it’s existence to build the canal.

[Amityschild]

I’m confused! But...Obama is the issue of concern. If we had a real opportunity with a candidate other than McCain I’d definitely be on board.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

“Carter, he never stops giving.”

What an unselfish man he is.

And he does it all by giving pieces of our country away.

His generosity is without equal.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

“I’m confused! But...Obama is the issue of concern. If we had a real opportunity with a candidate other than McCain I’d definitely be on board.”

Your are correct.

My appologies. I need to get back on track about BO.

But then again, I was never on track once McCain was mentioned.: )

[PhilDragoo]

Limiting our presidents to one, or even two allegiances is typical of bitter white people clinging to their guns, their God, their Constitution.

And what in heaven's name is wrong with a U.S. president having allegiance to Indonesia.

Need we be again be reminded Bill Clinton was bought and saved by Indonesian Mochtar Riady in a limo in 1992.

So what that Hussein is Kenyan, is Indonesian, rode a limo with Larry, did a little blow when he could afford it, campaigned for Sharia law and the banning of Christianity--

When will we judge our candidates on the fluidity of their positions rather than the dusty documents of dead. . .white. . .men.

[Calpernia]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2051691/posts
Obama’s eligibility problem UPDATE

[freema]

It’s a long read, and enough to make my head spin like Linda Blair. However! While nothing is clear on BO’s status, the one thing that is clear why BO thinks he’s a citizen of the world.

Of note is this resolution. Very freaking strange.

2d Session S. RES. 511

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr110-511

[pissant]

Good stuff

[David]

I have a number of comments regarding Professor Benjamin's articles--the first of which I have read carefully; the second of which I am partially through.

And the articles are excellent well thought out and comprehensive documents.

But there is one major boot in Part II that I cannot pass without calling your attention to it: "IF:

He was born in Vancouver, British Columbia, or in any other part of the Dominion of Canada, on August 4th 1961, or at any other date, he was born a Canadian Citizen under The Canadian Citizenship Act of 1946. Due to the age of his mother he would NOT have been a US Citizen under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, until the passage of 8 U.S.C. 1401, Sec. 301 (g) at which point he became a Citizen by Law as of November 14, 1986."

That's clearly wrong--if he was born in Canada, he would never become a US Citizen as a result of passage of 8 USC Sec. 1401(g) (Sec. 301(g) of the INA of 1952).

The provision was added in 1986 by Section 12 of Public Law 99-653. Section 23(d) of Pub. L. 99-653, provided that: "The amendment made by section 12 shall apply to persons born on or after November 14, 1986."

Obama was born in 1961, long before November 14, 1986, and as a matter of law I think it is reasonably clear this provision does not ever apply to him.

As a legal proposition, the law appears clear that if he was born in Canada, or in Kenya, he is not a US Citizen at all unless or until he is naturalized as provided by law.

[Calpernia]

He is just a walking League of Nations, isn’t he?

[null and void]

See tagline...

[pissant]

His main argument is that dual citizenship, whether from Canada, Indonesia, Kenya, or more generally the British Commonwealth, given at any time, disqualifies him.

But you may be correct. If he was born in Canada, I think he’s toast.

[B4Ranch]

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
April 10, 2008
Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
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Democrats voting to insure they get their nominee into the White House, Mr. OBAMA, Mrs. CLINTON or John Sidney McCain, III.