But these electrodes in my nose are realllllly uncomfortable.
Posted on 09/22/2002 8:38:22 AM PDT by jjhunsecker
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:08:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
MELANIE Griffith made headlines in 2000 when she vowed to smoke pot with her son, Alexander, if he wanted to try it. And just two years later, she is ruing her decision.
"I said that if my son wanted to smoke pot, I would smoke it with him," Griffith told More magazine about Alexander, 17, her son by Steven Bauer. "I did - and it backfired. He liked it. Now he
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
But these electrodes in my nose are realllllly uncomfortable.
And I know an 80 year old that has smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day since he was 14. I'm sure that many freepers know someone like that as well. Does that vindicate cigarettes?
Virtually everyone I've ever met enjoys a beer or two from time to time, a glass of wine with dinner, a cocktail or two at dinner parties, a couple of glasses of champagne on New Year's Eve, or a martini at home after work. I've also known a couple of raging alcoholics, one of whom quit drinking and regained control of his life and the other whose husband left her.
Take from that whatever you want.
Somehow I can't see it working. I suspect that only the immature ones will want to smoke weed so we're right back to where we are now.
Um. I suspect that is an inaccurate crock of shite if I've ever heard it. I guess the people who get buzzed from alcohol are all immature, right?
No, it doesn't. Morphine comes from the opium poppy. Heroin comes from the dimethylation (synthesization) of morphine.
But basically, the effects of heroin and opium are no different. Not entirely true, although they are similar in many respects.
It's the potency of what it is and FYI, heroin can come in any form including morphine, dilaudid, pantopon, eukodol, paracodine, dionine, codeine, demerol and methodone.
It's become painfully obvious that you've no idea what you are talking about. Heroin does not come in many forms, it comes in one form, methylmorhine. Anthing else is not heroin, but another opium-derivatve compond.
METHODONE was specifically developed as a highly-potent synthetic morphine alternative.
As was Heroin.
Heroin is an opiate made from the chemical morphine
Yes ... "made from". Sythesized from. Just as hyrdocodone and oxycodone are made from codeine and thebain, yet are still considered sythetic opiods.
There is no such thing as "natural" heroin or "sythetic" heroin, as you claimed in a previous post. They are one and the same.
Heroin is so popular as a street drug because it's so potent. Try reading.
I suggest reading is something that you need to do on the subject. Start with medical literature, not recreational drug websites.
I have no time to detail the history of drugs for you. If you wanna come up with something, at least look it up before you pull it out of your head.
This is amusing, coming from someone who has demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of the evolution of the morphine molecule.
React so poorly to marijuana that you die? I'm trying to grasp what you're saying, but it's not quite making sense.
Also, what do you think treatment centers are for?
you:It's become painfully obvious that you've no idea what you are talking about. Heroin does not come in many forms, it comes in one form, methylmorhine. Anthing else is not heroin, but another opium-derivatve compond.
I stand corrected slightly. The point is, they're not making morphine before they make heroin. It doesn't matter where it was first synthesized from, but where it originates. Okay, heroin was first synthesized from morphine. But you don't need to make morphine before you make heroin out of opium seeds. It belongs to a class of opiates, not a class of morphine.
Second, your statement "Just ask the maggot-ridden dopers that infest FR." belies your ignorance of the subject. Do you really think all that MJ smuggled into, grown, etc in the US is only used by misguided teens and the maggot inflicted. What a joke. There is a vast segment of society that uses MJ responsibly.
The WOD forces them to keep there actions under the radar. Jobs, homes, lifestyles, families, are at risk because of the Feds. insatiable need for money. It impacts their lives no more than they allow it to. You would be absolutely amazed at the number of people who partake on a regular basis. I actually purchase mine from a doctor friend. Where he gets his I don't know. I don't ask.
I smoke every now and then. I also drink a beer or two when the time feels right.
I been married 17 yrs., employed regularly, college ed., served in the USAF, and function quiet normally in the society you seem to be annointed to protect.
My use does not impact you at all. I don't expect you to agree with me. We (the culture I described) would simply like to be left alone by an omnipotent Gov't. Are we free or not??
That is a bigoted statement. AA has helped many alchoholics get back on the track of a normal life. The message is that we as addicts have no control over alchohol or other drugs when we decide to use them. Plus you get to meet a lot of great people who were in the same boat and were able to recover.
As an AA member, I would like to hear why you dislike it. I have had problems with it as well, but it did not lead me to throw out the baby with the water.
Addiction is not fun.
As well you should, especially while insulting me while you were disseminating blatantly erroneous information.
The point is, they're not making morphine before they make heroin.
Wrong again. Mophine is the PRECURSOR to methylmorhone, which is heroin. Without morphine, heroin could not be made. It is the dimethylization of morhine which creates heroin. Morphine must be made BEFORE heroin. All heroin starts out as morphine.
It doesn't matter where it was first synthesized from, but where it originates.
Huh?
Okay, heroin was first synthesized from morphine. But you don't need to make morphine before you make heroin out of opium seeds.
Considering that heroin is made from the dimethylation of morphine, please detail how heroin is made without morphine. There are many pharmaceutical companies that would be very interested in your method.
The morphine is extracted from opium (very little comes from the seeds, most is from the "sap"). Heroin is made from the extracted morphine. Heroin is not made from "opium seeds" before morphine is produces. BTW, the seeds of the poppy plants are a very poor source of opium. Good thing, considering that many of us are eating them on bagels this morning.
It belongs to a class of opiates, not a class of morphine.
Well, of course it is an opiate. Heroin is an opiate, and is also a morphine-derivative. Morphine is an opiate as well. Morphine and heroin and codeine and oxycodone, etc - are all opiates. I don't know what this has to do with your original points, the accompanying insults, and your claim that "synthetic heroin" and "natural heroin" had different effects? Can you elaborate. You lost me (perhaps purposefully).
Everclear, the rocket fuel of booze.
Yes, coffee and smokes can cause one to wreck cars, lose jobs, and OD - no difference at 'tall. It's all relative, don't 'cha know.
Fair enough. However, in the future you should probably withhold the insults, and cease urging people to "read" and educate themselves until you are quite confident that you have done the requisite research into the subject on which you are commenting. I would find it quite embarrassing to be wrong after leveling such accusations.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.