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To: dsc

Such prevarication as I’ve never seen. ‘’We’re entitled to our own opinion, not our own facts’’. This seems lost on you. The most specious part of your post is this gem:’’Loyalty is not owed to the government but to the Constitution’’. Read the oath given to those who serve in the US Military and what it states. Am I an American? Yes, what are you that you defend treasonous slave owners from a hundred and fifty-four years ago? It seems quite obvious to me you’re sorry the South lost the war and wish it hadn’t so today you might be some other kind of American or a facsimile thereof. Are you indeed sorry the South lost?


64 posted on 11/08/2015 3:42:42 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

“Such prevarication as I’ve never seen.”

Nonsense. Where I have contradicted you, you are misinformed or uninformed. From now on, put “willfully” before both those adjectives.

“The most specious part of your post is this gem: “Loyalty is not owed to the government but to the Constitution.” Read the oath given to those who serve in the US Military and what it states.”

Why would you bring up something that proves you wrong? Here’s the oath I took:

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.[1]

Where does that call for loyalty to anything other than the Constitution?

“It seems quite obvious to me”

Seeing as how everything you’ve said here today has been wrong, I cannot seem to find any concern for your opinion.

“Are you indeed sorry the South lost?”

I am not foolish enough to think I can discern what would have happened had the Confederacy won. I tend to think the Confederate states would have rejoined the Union after they had ended slavery, but who knows? Perhaps England would have picked us off separately.

I will, however, leave you with this gem by H. L. Mencken, of whom I somewhat recklessly presume you will have heard:

“The Gettysburg speech was at once the shortest and the most famous oration in American history...the highest emotion reduced to a few poetical phrases. Lincoln himself never even remotely approached it. It is genuinely stupendous. But let us not forget that it is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense. Think of the argument in it. Put it into the cold words of everyday. The doctrine is simply this: that the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self-determination—that government of the people, by the people, for the people, should not perish from the earth. It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves.”


67 posted on 11/08/2015 4:16:47 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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