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1 posted on 02/27/2013 5:08:59 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

A police state is a safe state, learn to enjoy it.


2 posted on 02/27/2013 5:11:41 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

ARRFF - WOOF


3 posted on 02/27/2013 5:14:41 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Kaslin

Where do I start? Your Fourth amendment rights can now be completely circumvented by a dog. Man’s best friend is now your worst enemy.

Every cop can now get a “certified” dog and search ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.

Dog and cop walk by your house and “smell” drugs. Probable cause; SWAT; busted front door. Computers and papers siezed, oh, and your cars too. There has got to be drugs here somewhere!

...don’t turn around...Der Kommissar’s in town...


5 posted on 02/27/2013 5:22:53 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: Kaslin

Eighty pound dog eh? I need to break out some of my hidden stash of Compound 1080.


7 posted on 02/27/2013 5:33:08 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: Kaslin

In 1973 I was about to get on an AF C-130 at Bangkok flying to Diego Garcia. About 7 of us were lined up and told to place our bags etc on the floor. An AF policeman came walking down the line with a dog. I was last in line and the dog “hit” on the envelope holding my orders. I was placed under arrest and taken to an interogation room and read my rights. Three AF policemen ripped open the envelope and couldn’t find anything. A Sgt said “Get that dog back in here.” They brought the dog back in and he ignored the envelope. His handler said “He hasn’t had a hit in a while and just wanted some excitement.” Scared the crap out of me.

The SC was set up to protect the citizens from stuff like this. Now the SC is part of the problem.


8 posted on 02/27/2013 5:35:24 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: Kaslin

This was a unanimous decision, which indicates it isn’t some leftist plot to overthrow America.

“Wheetley concluded, based principally on Aldo’s alert, that he had probable cause to search the truck. His search did not turn up any of the drugs Aldo was trained to detect. But it did reveal 200 loose pseudoephedrine pills, 8,000 matches, a bottle of hydrochloric acid, two containers of antifreeze, and a coffee filter full of iodine crystals — all ingredients for making methamphetamine. Wheetley accordingly arrested Harris, who admitted after proper Miranda warnings that he routinely “cooked” methamphetamine at his house and could not go “more than a few days without using” it.”

“In short, a probable-cause hearing focusing on a dog’s alert should proceed much like any other. The court should allow the parties to make their best case, consistent with the usual rules of criminal procedure. And the court should then evaluate the proffered evidence to decide what all the circumstances demonstrate. If the State has produced proof from controlled settings that a dog performs reliably in detecting drugs, and the defend-ant has not contested that showing, then the court should find probable cause. If, in contrast, the defendant has challenged the State’s case (by disputing the reliability of the dog overall or of a particular alert), then the court should weigh the competing evidence. In all events, the court should not prescribe, as the Florida Supreme Court did, an inflexible set of evidentiary requirements. The question—similar to every inquiry into probable cause—is whether all the facts surrounding a dog’s alert, viewed through the lens of common sense, would make a reasonably prudent person think that a search would reveal contraband or evidence of a crime. A sniff is up to snuff when it meets that test.”

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/11-817_5if6.pdf


9 posted on 02/27/2013 5:53:23 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Kaslin

People are going to turn the tables and start shooting the cops’ dogs.


10 posted on 02/27/2013 5:54:34 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Kaslin
Dogs are our servants that can be trained as we see fit. They are NOT objective witnesses or machines.

A dog and the presence of a palmable non-unique package on someones person should not be the only piece of evidence required to convict. Often cash/property is seized unless the mark can prove they earned the money legally. Such a low standard is easily abused by law enforcement and there have been numerous such cases.

These are not laws made by a government “for the people”. These are laws to protect government from the people as it steals from us.

11 posted on 02/27/2013 5:58:25 PM PST by varyouga
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To: Kaslin

I’m just impressed an officer was able to not shoot a dog long enough to lead it around a car.


14 posted on 02/27/2013 6:30:40 PM PST by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: Kaslin

“false-positive error rates as high as 96 percent in the field”

No way.


19 posted on 02/27/2013 7:09:26 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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