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I believe what Jeff is saying is that God expects people to act in whatever capacity they are able to act to participate in our communities, helping our neighbors, helping to elect moral leaders, take care of our families through work, using good hygiene to help ward off disease, and various other actions and deeds. But there comes a time, as well, when you've done all that you can and then you must "Let Go and Let God." Paul says to pray without ceasing. That doesn't mean to sit in a closet all day and literally do nothing but pray.

James 2:

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

You have clearly taken what I said all worng, either knowingly, or as a result of a misunderstanding, misjudgement or mistake.

I believe in God the Father, and in His Son Jesus Christ. I believe Jesus Christ is the Savior of mankind and bestowes the Holy GHost on all those who accept Him and then try with all their heart, and as a result of their conversion to Him and taking His countenance upon them, to live by what He taught, to try and be like Him and keep his commandments. That gift of the Holy Ghost then helps guide us in our daily walk.

I pray to the Father, as Jesus taught, in Jesus name and seek His guidance. But I do believe He also expects us to use our Free Will, that He gave us, to act within those constraints to be witnesses to those around us, to influence others, and our society for the good and towards him.

So, yes, as a result, I will DO ALL IN MY POWER to influence those things towards what I indicated in my intial post because I have already determined through the very process I just indicated (ie. prayer and guidance from the Spirit) that it would be best for America.

...but then, because God is Supreme, and His will is suprmeme and does not always indicate exactly what we in our finite mortal minds might expect...I WILL WAIT UPON THE LORD, for His Arm to be revealed, and then accept His will.

That was what I was saying and what I meant and what I will do.

Nic, thanks. I was away from the thread for some time, and then not aware of this background discussion going on regardiong me until I stumbled across it posting to someone else. Thanks for the attempt (as a result of our long years of discourse here) to let pop88 understand what I meant.

For whatever reason, instead of taking your comments at face value as such an attempt to clear up a misunderstanding, he apparently had no desire to take into account you attempt to help in this regard. He apparently insists that I answer him.

Okay, I am game, and have done so.

IMHO, when a person is not around to defend themselves, that's what friends do..not in an attempt to speak for them which I never took your comments as, but in an attempt to clear up a misunderstanding regarding people we consider friends and see being taken wrong. I apprecioate that.

God's speed.

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