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David Rosenberg's Explanation Why The Real Unemployment Rate (U-3) Is 12%
ZeroHedge ^ | 3/4/2011 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 03/04/2011 9:52:04 AM PST by FromLori

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To: null and void

Total non-farm payrolls (Source St. Louis Fed)

61 posted on 03/04/2011 2:08:49 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: TopQuark

“Was the Fed lying when Republicans were in charge?”

Sure they were. I don’t think anyone would deny that.

“Can you tell me what indicates that these reports are a lie?”

Can’t you read. The whole article is about that.
Why don’t you start there.


62 posted on 03/04/2011 2:11:07 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: listenhillary
“Many Freepers are total advocates of capitalism, but that is not what we have in America.”

The answer to that is to have less regulation so that the market place can provide alternatives.
I work in the financial industry and we are heavily regulated. My company for the most part “did it right” the past few years and has gained market share.
But the increased regulation has made it hard to get things done for customers (and is not really helping anyone). But our company will thrive because of of that regulation, because regulation it will keep smaller competitors out.

I don't like that; because many days I would rather work for a smaller entity. Different from where I am now.

63 posted on 03/04/2011 2:12:53 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: TopQuark

My, you’re a nasty piece of fecal matter aren’t you?

We just had the government telling banks what compensation they can pay. We had Fannie and Freddie buying up every crap loan that banks could shovel into their coffers.


64 posted on 03/04/2011 2:14:08 PM PST by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: TopQuark
"You've just defamed innocent people with no visible hesitation."

YOU are the one who does this, LIAR.

And you don't stop, you arrogant dense illiterate. Talk about calling the kettle black. You do the VERY same thing!!!!Morally blind whiner.

65 posted on 03/04/2011 2:16:14 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: moehoward
If someone can explain to me why bailing out auto companies with failed business models and who contribute heavily to Democrats is a bad idea, and why bailing out banks with failed business models and who contribute heavily to Democrats is a good idea, I'll listen.

I've been listening since the late summer of 2008. Still waiting.......

66 posted on 03/04/2011 2:17:30 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Who's Damaged America More? (a) Al Qaeda (b) Wall Street Investment Bankers)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

The SEC did a bang up job over regulating Bernie Maddof.


67 posted on 03/04/2011 2:19:11 PM PST by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: TopQuark

“Defamation has become a norm, even among “conservatives.”

And for one who so maliciously continues to do the every same thing to others on this thread,

YOU ARE NO CONSERVATIVE YOURSELF, LIAR!!!!!


68 posted on 03/04/2011 2:20:37 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: FromLori

Stasi after you now too?


69 posted on 03/04/2011 2:24:33 PM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: HereInTheHeartland; TopQuark
There are banks and other financial firms that acted prudently and carefully during the housing bubble. BB&T is one that comes to mind.

By and large, the commercial and regional banks are in this category. They limited their exposure to questionable investments, and they deserve to prosper as a result.

By contrast, those banks who did not act prudently should fail. Notice I do not say "deserve to fail"...they simply should fail so that investment dollars in future gravitate away from the incompetent, and toward the competent.

70 posted on 03/04/2011 2:24:52 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Who's Damaged America More? (a) Al Qaeda (b) Wall Street Investment Bankers)
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To: TopQuark

“It would be nice if conservatives on this board rose to the standards -— of both logic and fairness -— at least somewhat higher than liberals.”

So, where is it FAIR that lying and slander are logical and conservative?

You still haven’t shown where fromLori gave us her commie speech, LIAR.


71 posted on 03/04/2011 2:26:09 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: FromLori; All

I think the “ayes” have it. FromLori should stay.


72 posted on 03/04/2011 2:29:07 PM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: Chunga85

I don’t but I understand why if she does.


73 posted on 03/04/2011 2:32:08 PM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: TheBattman

This has been going on a long time on this site.


74 posted on 03/04/2011 2:34:31 PM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: TopQuark
"...if someone merely questions the bashing of capitalism,..."

HEY, that's right, illiterate. How is debt slavery capitalism?

Hmmm?

Hey, FReepers, do you even recognize commie liar's worldview when it stares at you? Where did fromLori say anything remotely commie, liar?

75 posted on 03/04/2011 2:34:58 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TopQuark

Bailouts are not capitalism
Subsidies are not capitalism
Favored status tax rates and other laws (for the chosen few) are not capitalism.

Enjoy your coporatism.


76 posted on 03/04/2011 2:37:36 PM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: Notary Sojac; ex-Texan

Hey ex-Tex, speaking as one “commie” to another, you might get a kick out of this thread.


77 posted on 03/04/2011 2:41:54 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Who's Damaged America More? (a) Al Qaeda (b) Wall Street Investment Bankers)
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To: Notary Sojac
Why don't you put up or shut up about your use of the term "commie"??

That's a fair demand. In a previous post, I already explained that the idea that, if someone disagrees with bashing of Goldman, CEOs, etc, then he must be one of them (working for Goldman, be a CEO or another "rich") belongs to Marx. It was one of his claims to fame. You hear this expressed all the time on FR.

I have also explained --- at length on other threads -- and will be glad to do it again, that bashing the "financiers" has been the standard strategy, started also by Marx, and continued by Progressives (1890s through Wilson) and Rosevelt in this country, Hitler and Mussolinit (1920-1940s), Lenin and his followers (1890 to date).

This always made sense to those that wanted to undermine capitalism because finance is difficult to understand Indeed, what do they really produce, those financiers? What good does that do for the country? Seems like nothing. To the uninformed, it does look like nothing: they just manipulate the markets to satisfy their gre-e-e-ed (that evil thing only financiers have) and steal from productive members of society. Compare this to a rich owner of a steel factory. It's not as easy to send the dogs at him: you can see steel, you know that tanks and other things are made out of it. You know that he is rich but still useful to the country. So it is always convenient to sick the dogs on the "financiers."

That is the sole reason a regular recession has become Great Depression. Like today, he used people's frustration and made it look that it was "financiers" and the "speculators" who created the crisis.

The same is done today. Everyone is mad at the banks for "taking our money." But banks never asked for the bailout and tried to refuse it. That's a secret here on FR. Just look at thread after thread about Goldman Sacks, which vigorously fought against taking the money --- everyone is mad at them. Not a word about Detroit CEOs: it is they who made several trips to Congress and even blackmailed it (give us money or there'll be social unrest). Go ahead, count the number of threads raging about car-makers, who really begged for the bailout. Ah, but they are not in finance, they produce products to which we can relate, it is not as easy to anger the ignorant against them.

But facts don't matter any more. They don't matter because there has been too much propaganda and even conservatives swallowed it. In Germany, too, it was common sense that financiers --- Jewish financiers (are there any other?) --- started WW I, created 1929 crash, etc. Some people were trying to argue against this nonsense. They too were called capitalist pigs or Jew-sympathizers -- sort of the way I am treated when I question the unsupported accusations.

I would gladly discuss facts, but I am not allowed to do that. One is not even allowed to question posts that are completely empty of facts but full of accusations. And those posts often quickly reveal that the poster does not understand the words he is using (finance and economics are complex) and does not even know what Fed or Goldman do while bashing them. I asked for reasons behind accusations, but none follow. I am supposed to get in line with the prevailing thinking --- or else I must be Goldman's owner.

This is not a discussion, this is hysteria. The same hysteria, against the same "villains," that existed in 1930s here as well as Germany and Italy.

If you have specific questions or remarks, I only happy to discuss them. But you should not buy into hysteria until you really know the facts. And. if you are really a conservative and care about core American principles, you should stand up against the defamation of innocent people that are routinely accused without a shred of evidence.

78 posted on 03/04/2011 2:47:13 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Lorianne
But gee Lorianne, don't worry.

Because the Dow is over 12,000.

As long as the Dow stays up, we can all sleep peacefully, secure in the knowledge that God is smiling upon the American way of life.

Would you like cherry, grape, or lemon-lime flavor?? There's plenty to go around.

79 posted on 03/04/2011 2:47:39 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Who's Damaged America More? (a) Al Qaeda (b) Wall Street Investment Bankers)
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To: Lorianne

Boy, have you got that right.

Real freedom, Real capitalism isn’t filled with fraud.

Goodness, if we can see this much, how much more are they hiding?

What is really in Fort Knox? What do the FED’s balance sheet REALLY look like? Why are they STILL fighting showing what happened to the TRAP money?

Kleptocracy, is what we have. Without a moral foundation, without a fear of God, corruption has seeped into this country and the unconnected are having their merge wealth stolen from them by the system of fractional reserve banking.

Thievesssssssssss.. filthy little thievessssss, they stole it from us, our country!


80 posted on 03/04/2011 2:49:50 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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