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David Rosenberg's Explanation Why The Real Unemployment Rate (U-3) Is 12%
ZeroHedge ^ | 3/4/2011 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 03/04/2011 9:52:04 AM PST by FromLori

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To: Marty62
I wonder if Congress would find it in their black hearts to pass a Law making lying to the American Public regarding national statistics a Federal offense.

"The Federal Government should be forbidden by Law from releasing statistics." Milton Friedman

41 posted on 03/04/2011 1:27:15 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Chunga85

“Anybody else want FromLori to quit?”

What is the issue?


42 posted on 03/04/2011 1:28:29 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I think some of us might be getting a little too flipped out with the use of constant personal attacks.


43 posted on 03/04/2011 1:35:41 PM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: Notary Sojac; All
There are a few on this board who have their lips firmly planted on Goldman Sachs' ass, but far fewer than there once were.

So much for conservative principles. It Marx's idea that what a person thinks depends on his income and class membership. That is what Notary expressed above; that is what has become common sense on this forum: if someone merely questions the bashing of capitalism, he must belong to the spooky class of capitalists --- hust as with all communists, no reasoning, no facts, of course.

Hey, FReepers, do you even recognize commie worldview when it stares at you?

Probably not. Well, enjoy; continue to serve as useful idiots; bash capitalist institution you do not understand -- Wall Street (make sure it's especially Goldman), CEOs and their bonuses, "obscene" profits of oil companies.

Your side is winning: useful idiots that bash capitalism without understanding of how it works helped put a commie in the White House. Enjoy.

44 posted on 03/04/2011 1:36:07 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: FromLori

Chill girl friend, don’t take it personal and it
won’t be personal, others here appreciate your posts.


45 posted on 03/04/2011 1:36:32 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

See post #44. Some people have all the answers and become very emboldened from behind their keyboards. To me, it’s just noise.


46 posted on 03/04/2011 1:39:28 PM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

TQ thinks she’s a commie.

Actually I think he thinks we are all commies.

Maybe he’s a commie, you never can tell, they
are like muslims.


47 posted on 03/04/2011 1:40:17 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: TopQuark

It’s not capitalism when the banks are co-opted by the government.


48 posted on 03/04/2011 1:40:51 PM PST by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: tet68; Chunga85
I very much disagree with with the anti business attitude that I see some posters display here. I don't think those views can square with conservative values in my opinion.

Business can be criticized for it's excesses without saying “the whole system is rotten”.

But that is my opinion. I think a forum like this should be for others to express their viewpoints even if we see them as wrong.

49 posted on 03/04/2011 1:46:24 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: Chunga85; FromLori

Please don’t quit.

I know it is hard to be constantly LIED ABOUT.

The pro-bankers are false witnesses and slanders. They don’t even make comments related to the thread, or the post. They just attack and whine. Cowards and babies.
They are evil in their constant barrage of hate.

I appreciate your posts and the effort you make to bring financial issues to this site. Lots of Freepers are still in the dark, but more will wake up as time goes on.

I think everybody should hit the abuse button from now on when the “pro-bankers” make personal attacks against fromLori EVERY TIME THEY DO IT!

I know I started yesterday.


50 posted on 03/04/2011 1:48:20 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Chunga85; FromLori; TopQuark
"Anybody else want FromLori to quit? I don't."

No, absolutely not.

I just don't know why some people feel the need to be so contentious and rude to her.

It takes quite a bit of effort to seek and find various articles and then to post them only to have the same people WHINE and complain over and over. Real discouraging for the person posting the articles.

51 posted on 03/04/2011 1:49:08 PM PST by blam
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I see what you are saying and I agree somewhat. I feel that many with their eyes open are trying to shine the light on raging Facism. Many Freepers are total advocates of capitalism, but that is not what we have in America.


52 posted on 03/04/2011 1:49:59 PM PST by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: Reagan Man
“founded” should’ve been “found,” of course. Sorry that typo led to a confusion.

I don't mind rhetorical sarcasm at all. But this was more than sarcasm. It suggested to conspiracy theorists on this tread that statistics are somehow hidden, which is false. You also falsely attributed publication to "Obama administration," although statistics are not handled by political appointees.

And you continue the same in your reply: "Only U3 gets wide dissemination." But wide dissemination is not handled by the government at all --- not by Obama and not even by BLS. It is up to the media to decide how well our dumbed-down population, victims of our schools and colleges, can read statistical tables.

For someone who knows the way to BLS publications and finds typos with easy, you exhibit too little of disciplined thinking and basic fairness. Your rhetorical devices would be just fine otherwise.

P.S. Hope no new typos will distract you from the point of this post.

53 posted on 03/04/2011 1:51:18 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Chunga85; FromLori; TopQuark
"Anybody else want FromLori to quit? I don't."

No, absolutely not.

I just don't know why some people feel the need to be so contentious and rude to her.

It takes quite a bit of effort to seek and find various articles and then to post them only to have the same people WHINE and complain over and over. Real discouraging for the person posting the articles.

54 posted on 03/04/2011 1:51:22 PM PST by blam
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To: Notary Sojac
"There are a few on this board who have their lips firmly planted on Goldman Sachs' ass, but far fewer than there once were."

Ain't that he truth. Anyone siding with the bank cartels now are either employed by them or just so lonely they'd take al-Qaeda's side in an argument in hope of someone responding to them.

55 posted on 03/04/2011 1:52:10 PM PST by moehoward
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To: TopQuark; All
I absolutely understand how capitalism works.

I am a capitalist, and when the company I work for suffers losses due to poor investment decisions (it has happened) what we do NOT do is run to the government for a 0.05% loan, or demand that the Treasury Department buy our junk assets with taxpayer money at far above market value.

We suck it up, book our losses like grownup men and women, and carry on. And every American CEO that does the same has my full and unqualified support.

56 posted on 03/04/2011 1:52:35 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Who's Damaged America More? (a) Al Qaeda (b) Wall Street Investment Bankers)
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To: listenhillary
It’s not capitalism when the banks are co-opted by the government.

I completely agree. If you find where they have been "co-opted" -- whatever that means -- let's hear it. I would like the perps to go to jail for subverting the democratic process and the Constitution of this great country.

So, let's hear it.

Warning: providing evidence may require you to understand what you are talking about. It may even require you to study the issue (no, I don't mean browsing the Web).

But, by all means, let's hear it. Put up or shut up.

57 posted on 03/04/2011 1:57:00 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark; FromLori; Chunga85; All
"I wonder how long it will take till fromLori spews her usual commie propaganda and blames this on Goldman, the Fed, CEOs and their bonuses?"

OK

Above is post #3.

Prove to me TopQuark, where fromLori spewed ANY commie proganda, blamed GS, the Fed and the CEO bonuses IN THE POSTS BEFORE YOURS!!!!!!

LIAR

You can't TopQuark.

TopQuark is a LIAR

58 posted on 03/04/2011 1:59:42 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TopQuark
Why don't you put up or shut up about your use of the term "commie"??

Show me something in my posts or in Lori's which is specifically "communist", bearing in mind that:

(1) The principle under law that he who wishes to collect a debt must prove he is rightfully entitled to collect is not communism;

(2) The idea that insolvent companies have a claim upon the US Treasury or the Federal Reserve for restoration of their solvency through asset purchase is not communism.

59 posted on 03/04/2011 2:07:33 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Who's Damaged America More? (a) Al Qaeda (b) Wall Street Investment Bankers)
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To: biff
Don’t worry TQ,

I don't.

I have seen plenty enough Bagdad Bennies to know they are lying.

This is faulty logic, I am sorry to say: seeing great many liars (I am so sorry you are surrounded by so many of them) has no relevance on the truthfulness of the next person.

You do know that the statistics he spouts have been squeezed, stomped, stretched, pounded and otherwise massaged in order to present what he wants them to look like. Don’t you? No, I do not. A few years back, I even known personally some of those people. Many of them are conservative. Lying in reports would require a massive conspiracy in which those people would never participate and would blow the whistle on other conspirators in a heartbeat.

You've just defamed innocent people with no visible hesitation. You think that violating basic Commandments and American traditions is conservative?

Most importantly, what I know is unimportant. Since you make accusations, what matters is your knowledge. So I asked in the previous post

:: If you have evidence that he misrepresents the data, let's hear it.

Wouldn't it be easier to answer the question rather than discussing what I know?

Just answer the question --- if you have anything to say, that is.

60 posted on 03/04/2011 2:07:38 PM PST by TopQuark
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