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Elderly Couple Hospitalized After Cops Raid Wrong House
Fox News ^ | March 23, 2006 | AP staff

Posted on 03/23/2006 10:59:34 AM PST by seacapn

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To: mugs99

The Nazi's perfect these tactics when rounding up Jews and other "undesirables".

No wonder we call the people using these tactics today "Jackbooted Thugs".

And they don't understand why and wonder why we are not on their side.

"Those who have not learned the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them".


301 posted on 03/23/2006 7:25:53 PM PST by Supernatural (Ea wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: Supernatural
And they don't understand why and wonder why we are not on their side

The drug war mentality of law enforcement has caused the people to fear the government...A very dangerous situation.
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302 posted on 03/23/2006 7:44:19 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: steve-b

Anyone with a multidigit IQ can figure out that if you have an ambiguous description of the target, you go back and get a clarification.



But when you have an adrenaline hard-on, and no real accountability, the urge overcomes.


303 posted on 03/23/2006 7:51:02 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: seacapn

Militarized police forces have become the "standing army" our founders feared.


304 posted on 03/23/2006 7:54:06 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: One Proud Dad

In Texas what is forfeited to LE on the state level is used for equipment and training costs only. No salaries are paid.



Ever work with a budget? When one item is paid for, there is more money for the other.


305 posted on 03/23/2006 7:58:48 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: WKB

This is terrible!
Bless their hearts for real.

Thanks for the ping.


306 posted on 03/23/2006 9:44:00 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: WKB

LOL!


307 posted on 03/23/2006 9:44:31 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: seacapn
...were injured as TACT team members secured the house...

"secured the house", (verb, past tense) to administer gun stocks to the ribs, boots to the backs of necks, and make certain that you get the most out of the taxpayer funds spent on military style weapons, flak vests, really cool looking black camo pants, and the several viewings of "Rambo, First Blood" at the squad house.

308 posted on 03/23/2006 9:53:21 PM PST by Washi
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To: jonascord
If you want to play soldier, join the Marines. This bounce-them-around attitude just to get an adrenaline rush is getting way old, and is using up any respect us law abiding citizens had. I, and many others, no longer trust you. With 80-year-old couples being hospitalized, and cops arresting people in BARS for drinking, things are spinning out of control.

Do not try to send turds like this guy to the marines!

Semper Fidelis.

309 posted on 03/23/2006 9:56:10 PM PST by MrEdd (I would have gotten away with it too - if it weren't for those meddling kids and their stupid dog.)
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To: seacapn
"...Beshears said the woman received a dislocated shoulder and the man received bruised ribs.

Hummmm...sounds like one of these was applied:
http://www.police-batons.com/mptc/meb_tech/mebtech_suptakedown.html

310 posted on 03/23/2006 10:11:05 PM PST by Drago
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To: One Proud Dad

Sorry, come screaming through my door at 4 AM, and see what happens. I violate no laws, and assume that any door crashers are NOT the cops.


311 posted on 03/24/2006 12:28:57 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: seacapn
"OOPS. OUR BAD!" ~ Official police usual-procedure statement
312 posted on 03/24/2006 1:39:33 AM PST by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: Beelzebubba
This excerpt from Frontline might be of interest:

But equally important, local law enforcement would now get a piece of the pie. Within the 1984 Act was a provision for so-called "equitable sharing", which allows local law enforcement agencies to receive a portion of the net proceeds of forfeitures they help make under federal law--and under current policy, that can be up to 80%. Previously, seized assets had been handed over to the federal government in their entirety.

Immediately following passage of the Act, federal forfeitures increased dramatically. The amount of revenue deposited into the Department of Justice Assets Forfeiture Fund, for example, soared from $27 million in 1985 to $644 million in 1991--a more than twenty-fold increase. And as forfeitures increased, so did the amount of money flowing back to state and local law enforcement through equitable sharing. [end except]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/forfeiture.html

313 posted on 03/24/2006 1:47:55 AM PST by Ken H
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To: One Proud Dad
I live in Southern Oregon. The meth problem here is a nightmare. Just the other day someone used my name and address and someone else's driver's license number to buy something with pseudo ephedrine in it. The people that use and make this drug are a dangerous bunch. These are often the people the swat teams are after. What happened to the old couple is terrible, and every effort should be made to keep it from happening. But I have the sneaking suspicion that many of you condemning the cops would be screaming even louder if your neighbors meth lab blew up and took your home and G-d forbid, maybe your family with it. Stuff like that has happened here, thank your deity if it hasn't happened where you live. Oh and you might want to thank a cop too. (and no I don't say that just cause cops make me hot! LOL!) I got 911 on my speed dial, but you all can call whomever you want.
314 posted on 03/24/2006 5:14:58 AM PST by BruceysMom (.)
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To: azhenfud
If the police break down a door in a wrongfull raid and an officer is shot and killed by the occupant but the homeowner isn't, would it be possible that homeowner be vindicated?

One thing LEOs take very seriously is the shooting of a fellow officer. In all likelihood, the homeowner would be killed by other officers. If not, he probably will not survive his arrest and custody.

315 posted on 03/24/2006 5:22:03 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: BruceysMom
Oh sorry a brief PS we recently had a 70 some year old arrested for selling meth. Meth, it's not just for kids anymore.
316 posted on 03/24/2006 5:25:54 AM PST by BruceysMom (.I'm hot & not in a good way, menopuase ain't for sissies.)
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To: seacapn

"What we have here is a failure to communicate."




As Mao said about his efforts in China, "We are creating Communism with American characteristics."


317 posted on 03/24/2006 5:52:50 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: BruceysMom
Many parts of rural America have meth problems. Like the "moonshine" of yesteryear, it can be made cheaply with readily available ingredients and, unlike marijuana, it does not require outdoor cultivation or greenhouses. Like the moonshiners and bootleggers, they are rural gangsters. The cops cannot deal with such people under Marquis of Queensbury rules. That being said, the whole SWAT approach is wrong, as too many innocent civilians are injured and private property damaged. The worst example of the abusive SWAT technique was the Branch Davidian raid in Waco, Texas, 13 years ago, though the target in this case was guns, and not drugs. Additionally, the knockless warrant plays havoc with the Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizure.

As with the DWI issue, the "War on Drugs" is being used by psuedo-conservative authoritarians as an excuse for expanding government power at the expense of personal liberties.

318 posted on 03/24/2006 5:53:42 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
Waco was a nightmare, as was it's predecessor, Ruby Ridge, Those were both the feds. Not your usual "I live in the neighborhood" police officer. I'm appalled by all the cop bashing on this thread. Are their problems? You betcha. Is slamming all cops the answer? Nada. And where I live meth isn't a 'problem" it's a constant danger. I live in the county seat of Josephine county Oregon. I can look out my front window and (peering down two blocks worth of alley) I can see the front door of the county court house. A year ago a meth lab was busted in an apartment building less the a half block away, had that blown up, especially in the summer, there's a good chance I would've lost my home.
319 posted on 03/24/2006 6:21:02 AM PST by BruceysMom (.I'm hot & not in a good way, menopuase ain't for sissies.)
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To: BruceysMom

Nice rant, but what does that have to do with militarized police forces? (I'm far more worried about cops blowing up my house than a neighbor's meth lab. doing the same.)

Evidently, the epidemic of SWAT activity seems to nicely correlate with the epidemic of meth problems. Which does not exactly make your case for you.

SWAT budgets NEED meth problems. If not for meth, they'd have to invent something else to justify their union overtime and ninja toys.


320 posted on 03/24/2006 7:28:54 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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