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America’s Descent Into the Third World
Chronicles Magazine ^ | Monday, July 25, 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 07/27/2005 6:21:50 AM PDT by A. Pole

The June payroll jobs report did not receive much attention due to the July 4 holiday, but the depressing 21st century job performance of the U.S. economy continues unabated.

Only 144,000 private sector jobs were created, each one of which was in domestic services.

Fifty-six thousand jobs were created in professional and business services, about half of which are in administrative and waste services.

Thirty-eight thousand jobs were created in education and health services, almost all of which are in health care and social assistance.

Nineteen thousand jobs were created in leisure and hospitality, almost all of which are waitresses and bartenders.

Membership associations and organizations created 10,000 jobs, and repair and maintenance created 4,000 jobs.

Financial activities created 16,000 jobs.

This most certainly is not the labor market profile of a First World country, much less a superpower.

Where are the jobs for this year’s crop of engineering and science graduates?

U.S. manufacturing lost another 24,000 jobs in June. A country that doesn’t manufacture doesn’t need many engineers. And the few engineering jobs available go to foreigners.

Readers have sent me employment listings from U.S. software development firms. The listings are discriminatory against American citizens. One ad from a company in New Jersey that is a developer for many companies, including Oracle, specifies that the applicant must have a TN visa.

A TN or Trade NAFTA visa is what is given to Mexicans and Canadians who are willing to work in the United States at below prevailing wages.

Another ad from a software consulting company based in Omaha, Neb., specifies it wants software engineers who are H-1B transferees. What this means is that the firm is advertising for foreigners already in the United States who have H-1B work visas.

The reason the U.S. firms specify that they have employment opportunities only for foreigners who hold work visas is because the foreigners will work for less than the prevailing U.S. salary.

Gentle reader, when you read allegations that there is a shortage of engineers in America, necessitating the importation of foreigners to do the work, you are reading a bald-faced lie. If there were a shortage of American engineers, employers would not word their job listings to read that no American need apply and that they are offering jobs only to foreigners holding work visas.

What kind of country gives preference to foreigners over its own engineering graduates?

What kind of country destroys the job market for its own citizens?

How much longer will parents shell out $100,000 for a college education for a son or daughter who ends up employed as a bartender, waitress or temp?


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To: KevinDavis
Simple, I'm a Constitutionalist.. Translation, if there is nothing about good paying job, then there is no right of a good paying job. Look it up..

I did it and you did not. It is in the very beginning - "promoting the general Welfare".

361 posted on 07/27/2005 5:00:39 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: KevinDavis; iconoclast

Quote: Where in the Constitution does it say that every American has a good paying job?




This is what corporate ceo's keep repeating in their mind to clear their conscious right before announcing they are offshoring 14,000 american jobs the next day.


362 posted on 07/27/2005 5:00:39 PM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: KevinDavis; iconoclast

Quote: Where in the Constitution does it say that every American has a good paying job?




This is what corporate ceo's keep repeating in their mind to clear their conscious right before announcing they are offshoring 14,000 american jobs the next day.


363 posted on 07/27/2005 5:00:49 PM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: KevinDavis

I agree. Roberts "fried his brain" several years ago.


364 posted on 07/27/2005 5:33:49 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: superiorslots

The only responsibility a CEO has is to the owners of the company, the stockholders. If they can do something legal that will increase value and/or profits, then they would be denying their responsibility if they didn't do it.


365 posted on 07/27/2005 5:41:09 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Paul Ross

I've actually considered going into this business. I think it would make me a fair amount of dinero.


366 posted on 07/27/2005 5:44:58 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the"and Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

You gotta love a product that people only use once...


367 posted on 07/27/2005 5:46:36 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
The only responsibility a CEO has is to the owners of the company, the stockholders.

Or maybe to his family and himself?

368 posted on 07/27/2005 5:47:28 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Modernman

Let's see now...

The US Department of Labor reported that there were 14.4 million manufacturing employees in June 2005, UP from 14.3 million manufacturing employees in June 2004, and yet Roberts CLAIMS that we are "a country that doesn't manufacture".

I'd say that the FACTs reveal that Roberts is pandering to the shallow-thinking "angry left"...


369 posted on 07/27/2005 5:47:36 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: A. Pole

I probably should have said "professional responsibility," but given the goings on among CEOs, I think you might be on to something.


370 posted on 07/27/2005 5:49:24 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
Hey, many of them become CEOs because they want to get rich. And quicker the better. Every man for himself.

Isn't what the free market and Ayn Rand are about?

371 posted on 07/27/2005 5:54:20 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: GingisK

With all due respect, are you qualified to write modern software? Are you qualified to design faster and smaller computer chips? Are you qualified to create AND MAINTAIN web-sites for the computer-illiterate?

If not, please consider if our immensely profitable, but fast-paced, information technology industry might have simply left you behind...


372 posted on 07/27/2005 5:56:24 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: A. Pole

I've made a couple of CEOs of big companies. Not many, just a few. They didn't strike me as the "money, money, money, money, mine, mine, mine" types. Mostly it seemed, at least to me, they were guys who just really liked to "win." Very competitive guys.

This makes sense because, and let's face it, after a certain point money fades to abstraction. The numbers are just a way to keep score. A five dollar bill is very real to a hungry guy who sees it as a means to something to eat. Fifty million dollars is just a number on the printed page to Bill Gates.


373 posted on 07/27/2005 6:00:01 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Paul Ross
And if the dollar crashes, just HOW will the U.S. suddenly start manufacturing things again for itself when all of the machine tools have been auctioned off to China?

I've been wondering the same about military hardware. Can't imagine they're going to fire up Bethlehem Steel anytime soon.

374 posted on 07/27/2005 6:00:30 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: durasell

made = met


375 posted on 07/27/2005 6:00:49 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: A. Pole

Tourism is where it is. Even the space program is becoming nothing but tourism. Maybe the Red Chinese would like to tour the US and stay in good hotels.


376 posted on 07/27/2005 6:03:58 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: Paul Ross

With all due respect, why aren't you concerned about the loss of farming jobs? Or the jobs of "upstairs maids"? Or the jobs of blacksmiths?

Your panic about the "loss" of manufacturing jobs is not justified by the facts. For example, Table B-1 to the June "Employment Situation Summary" reports that manufacturing jobs have INCREASED in "Production of Durable Goods" from last year.

I know... I know...

Paul Craig Roberts is a skillful manipulator of statistics to promote his "agenda".

But. I would hope that FReepers should not be so gullible as to accept his skewed data, without ever bothering to check it.



377 posted on 07/27/2005 6:23:19 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: A. Pole

""How much longer will parents shell out $100,000 for a college education for a son or daughter who ends up employed as a bartender, waitress or temp?"""


Myth: college grads are being offered statring salaries averaging close to $45,000 per year. 2005 will be the best year for college grads since 1999.


378 posted on 07/27/2005 6:25:53 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: jpsb

""She could not possibly be worst then Bush, the Bush presidency makes the Clinton presidency look good.""


youre an utter fool


379 posted on 07/27/2005 6:28:06 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: frgoff

"Nigger lover was the term used by people like you fifty years ago. Same bigotry, different group."

Wrong. Dead wrong.

#1 - Black Americans wanted to be part of America. Many, if not most Black Americans wanted the "American Dream". muslims have declared jihad. They don't want any part of being American, they want to take America.

#2 - Black Americans didn't adhere to a document that preached hate, and death, and conquest. muslims have all that and more in the koran. muslims "tolerate" infidels when they are outnumbered, only hoping to bide their time and overrun from within.

#3 - Black Americans didn't plot to kill innocents, any innocent, just as long as it was a non black. muslims declare there are no innocents. They kill all, women, children, elderly, even other muslims. muslims justify killing other muslims if the associate with infidels, or if they happen to be in the way.

What happened to Black Americans is horrific, and can't be erased, but it was not "people like me" that were involved.

We are at war, like it or not. If you are muslim, go away. Get out of my homeland. I will not patronize muslim businesses, I will not associate with muslims, I will not tolerate them any more than the law forces me to do so.

The shift is on. muslims have been happily conducting their jihad, with western leaders not understanding the evil nature of their quest. But, the British are starting to understand. And here in America, our leaders are changing terminology. No longer War on Terror, it's a War on Extremists. That's a big shift. Not much of a stretch to get to where my tagline, the reality of it all.


380 posted on 07/27/2005 6:37:46 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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