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Confederates In the Backyard?
Cornell Sun ^ | April 12, 2005 | Andy Guess

Posted on 04/21/2005 8:17:08 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

The defining moment of my visit to New Orleans a year ago occurred in a gift shop. I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit this, but at least it wasn't the kind that sells feather boas and t-shirts with jazz-playing lobsters. I wasn't a sorority girl nursing my hangover at Café Du Monde during Mardi Gras; I was a tourist visiting what used to be a sprawling, stately slave plantation.

I was busy mulling over that subtly troubling experience, browsing through the gift shop's bookshelves, when I came to a curious array of volumes. The title The South Was Right! jumped out at me first, and it took me a few minutes of thumbing through it to convince myself that it wasn't actually a joke. Stunned, I went down the line, looking in disbelief as each title lamented the once-great Confederacy and the common values it stood for. My favorite item was The Jefferson Davis Coloring Book, which I suspect is perfect for young Dixiecrats of all ages. I bought it just to remind myself that it exists.

I wonder how many parents in Louisiana are reading their children bedtime stories about their heroic ex-president.

It is this experience and others that have made me curious about a sliver of the South that -- apparently -- exists right here in upstate New York. Plenty of students coming back from breaks, sometimes along with their bubbly parents, have driven past a specific abode that has one memorable defining feature. On Route 79, that country road that often takes us home, there boasts a large, proud Confederate flag on the front wall of this particular house. You've probably seen it.

Why here, 200 miles north of the Mason-Dixon Line? That was the question that ricocheted in my mind one night as I drove past; so to find my answer, I pulled over and knocked on the door. Since that moment last semester, I've been chronicling the lives of the family that lives there with a video camera.

I dove in without knowing what to expect. I wasn't the only one, of course. No less than three different professors I pitched this to warned me to "be careful." They all said -- some more jokingly than others -- that I should bring a gun.

It was at this point I realized that I wasn't dealing merely with an outdated symbol of the Confederacy; I was dealing with a powerful and common conception, even among us Ivy League educated, that we are a shining City on a Hill among barren fields of hicks with mullets who watch NASCAR all day and grill roadkill venison on their pickup truck radiators. I finally wanted to find out if these cartoons that we've come to accept as "the other America" really exist.

My grand project to get behind the stereotypes of rural America wasn't off to a great start when the door opened and I came face to face with a man, a mullet and the vicious guard dog he was holding back (but no shotgun). I realized this was going to be a bit more difficult than I'd envisioned.

No matter: He directed me to the house next door, which happened to be the residence of his entire family. Not one of the Cornell professors or friends I'd spoken to would have predicted what happened next -- that I'd be greeted warmly; that I'd be invited in, even as an unexpected guest; that the family would listen to my pitch to follow them around with a video camera; and that they'd send me off, wishing me well.

These people are not white supremacists who love Jefferson Davis and hate minorities, who want to send the all-American middle finger to people with dark skin by putting up the rebel flag. I've spent too much time with them to believe it's true. Otherwise, the daughter of the family -- art school, anti-Bush, dyed hair, goth -- would have been booted onto the street long ago.

At the same time, I've spent enough of my life in Southern states to know that the racist sentiments interpreted as the meaning behind the rebel flag are still alive in some places, even if they are pushed underground. That's true of an enlightened city like New York as much as rural Pennsylvania or Jackson, Mississippi.

But instead of trying to argue that this is not a family of true racists -- which the film will do better than words, and which would rely entirely on my subjective experience -- I return to the question I began with: Why do they have that rebel flag hanging there for all the passing cars to see?

I spoke to them, as well as many people who share their view -- that the Confederate flag symbolizes not slavery but a rebellious spirit, an identity of a people who merely sought to defend their homeland as it was being invaded by a Yankee army. This view was the one I'd stumbled upon in a Louisiana gift shop, peddled by historians far out of the mainstream of academic life.

Yet this view is prevalent among a minority of rural white Americans. They don't care that the big-city elites say it's a symbol of slavery -- and by most scholarly accounts, that's exactly what it is. They've taken the symbol back, as an identity for themselves. Not an identity of hatred, but one of self-assertion.

Even if misguided, I came to respect their choice of home decoration. After all, they'd been told for generations that it was a symbol entirely separate from the question of slavery, without the corrective influence of a Cornell history professor to intervene.

Even so, I can't help but feel a bit off guard whenever I drive past. Not because I know what the flag means, but because I know who lives behind it.

Andy Guess is a senior in the College of Arts and Sciences. He can be contacted at guess@cornell.edu. The Last Boy Scout usually appears alternate Fridays.


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To: libertarianben
Great! A holier than thou Yankee.

Wonderful, another southron supporter who hasn't a clue of what he's talking about.

281 posted on 04/24/2005 10:02:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mac_truck

Le Per colony?


282 posted on 04/24/2005 10:03:08 AM PDT by wardaddy ( Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: Hacksaw

You're back!


283 posted on 04/24/2005 10:04:33 AM PDT by wardaddy ( Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: Smoote
So what? Are you suggesting that equates to prohibiting it?

Not necessarily.

284 posted on 04/24/2005 10:06:06 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mac_truck; dixiechick2000; stainlessbanner; Ohioan; Hacksaw

I don't hate Yankees.

I just dislike sanctimonious South bashers who can't resist finger wagging.

Those who wish Reconstruction had never eneded.

Sound familiar.

There are great Yankees who post here and they have perspective.

God bless them.

I pinged one of the more notable ones.

(I have Yankee kin for the record in Holland, Michigan...a large tribe...and when we get together, they don't ask for contrition from me..lol...and they are very Conservative)


285 posted on 04/24/2005 10:08:39 AM PDT by wardaddy ( Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: dixiechick2000
Hint: if you say you aren't going to respond, don't come back to take another shot -- it ruins the gesture.

The South in 1860 wasn't all one homogeneous piece. There were fewer slaves and slaveowners in the Upper South than in the Deep South, and fewer still in the Border States along the Mason-Dixon Line and the Ohio. That's one big reason why the Upper South (Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina and Arkansas) was initially against secession, and why the Border States (Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri) were even less inclined to secede. But in the Deep South states (South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas) which were the first to secede, the population of slaveowning families was highest, reaching close to half the White families in South Carolina and Mississippi.

There may be anomalies, but the general observation holds. People supported secession for varied reasons, but the thing started in states where slaves and slaveowners were a large part of the population. You couldn't have gone through or lived in most of South Carolina in 1860 without being extremely aware of slavery and the concern for its future.

I have posted on other issues. If I post more on history than on current politics it's because I'm more interested in history, shoddy historians, and liars than I am in complicated political questions of today. There are more than enough people posting about what's going on right now, and by the time I get to such posts there's not much to add to the argument. Maybe that's true of historical threads as well, but I do remember what I've read and learned, have had plenty of time to think things over, and am interested enough to look up what I don't know.

If you were a Republican in past decades -- a Landon, Dewey, Taft, Eisenhower, Nixon, Goldwater, Ford, Reagan, Bush, Dole voter -- you didn't spend much time refighting the Civil War. Chances are you probably honored and accepted Lincoln's contribution. The same is more or less true of conservatives. There were too many other issues to worry about. Bill Buckley and others have probably come to regret their overtures to Dixie militants in the 1950s and 1960s and don't want to reopen old wounds now. So you don't have to be a liberal to question or doubt or be appalled by the latest wave of neo-confederate propaganda.

What's most appalling are the deceptions -- the need to make an important reason for secession and war take a backseat to whatever one wants to emphasize. You can stand on the sidelines and snipe at what you take to be the "official line" about American history, but at some point, you have to face criticism yourselves. People like to make the same tired comments about Grant or Lincoln or the Emancipation Proclamation, but they bristle when people make criticisms of their own views. It would be nice to be forever the critic and never have to face objections and counter-arguments, but it's not quite fair and life doesn't work that way.

If you are a Southerner you have something like 450 years of history, if you exclude the long centuries before the first permanent British settlement. And you've lived for a big chunk of those four centuries with the rest of the US. Some very Southern parts of the country -- like the Appalachian Highlands -- were deeply divided about secession or even opposed to it. Their ancestors were right to be skeptical about secession, and it didn't make them any less Southern.

Why focus on 4 years of bitter war and make them the basis of your regional identity? Why pick the period when we were fighting against each other, rather than the 230 years we've been together in one country? Why go out of your way to alienate and antagonize the rest of the country?

Militant Southern nationalists continually attack Puritans and abolitionists, Lincoln and Grant, and you expect the rest of us to simply keep silent? I don't suggest that Lincoln or the Pilgrims are above reproach. I could make a lot of criticisms of them myself, but recognize them as part of our history, and can respect them without thinking them perfect. Where does this need to believe that the Confederacy was above criticism and reproach come from?

286 posted on 04/24/2005 10:12:57 AM PDT by x ("Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes." -- George Santayana)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"Name a single southern leader who's views on the races were more...enlightened than Lincoln's. After all if you are going to condemn him for racism then you should also take after other's with equal or worse views, shouldn't you?"

I can't speak for his views on the races. However Governor Sam Houston of Texas was adamantly opposed to secession, though Texas did secede from the Union. In fact he was removed office because it. I mention this as a point of interest only.

287 posted on 04/24/2005 10:48:34 AM PDT by Smoote
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To: x
"Why focus on 4 years of bitter war and make them the basis of your regional identity? Why pick the period when we were fighting against each other, rather than the 230 years we've been together in one country? Why go out of your way to alienate and antagonize the rest of the country?"

It's the defiance of it all that is so appealing to many Southerners. I'm not so sure that that is such bad thing. It is the same defiance shown by the defenders of Bastogne in December of 1944.

The Southern cause can never be righteous in the final analysis because of it's roots in the issue of Slavery. But I would not be too hard those here who defiantly defend the South. I've yet to see even one of them actually defend the institution of slavery or call for it's resurrection.

288 posted on 04/24/2005 11:28:53 AM PDT by Smoote
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To: Oberon
the IGNORANT ones don't know BUT the educated damnyankees KNOW & LIE about THEIR state's slaves.

in point of fact, lincoln & his henchmen planned to free dixie slaves and KEEP their slaves in bondage.

free dixie,sw

289 posted on 04/24/2005 12:34:04 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stainlessbanner
WELL SAID!

free dixie,sw

290 posted on 04/24/2005 12:34:51 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: wardaddy
rotflmRao!

free dixie,sw

291 posted on 04/24/2005 12:35:45 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: LS
have you EVER heard that "BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES"?

the WHOLE union navy could have made ONE serious fight against the Royal Navy. that would have been IT for the union & their blockade.

free dixie,sw

292 posted on 04/24/2005 12:38:57 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: LS
are you REALLY ignorant enough to believe something as SIMPLISTIC & UNeducated as that???

free dixie,sw

293 posted on 04/24/2005 12:40:00 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stainlessbanner; All
SADLY you are 100% CORRECT!

free dixie,sw

294 posted on 04/24/2005 12:40:52 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: PistolPaknMama
HI, PPM!

fyi, the GOOD GUYS won in CONCORD,NC this weekend. just got back from down there.

free dixie,sw

295 posted on 04/24/2005 12:42:17 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
fyi, the GOOD GUYS won in CONCORD,NC this weekend. just got back from down there

Yep the bagpiper brought me a souvenier "I am not a Granny" button. LOL! Good work!

296 posted on 04/24/2005 12:49:17 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: x; All
the PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER is NOT a dixie newspaper and they said Grant said PRECISELY THAT.

sadly, for you and the other damnyankees, Grant was a SLAVEOWNER & a SLAVE OVERSEER (he was also known, among his fellow overseers, as "a GOOD HAND with the WHIP!"). he only freed HIS slaves when he was forced to be the 13th & 14th Amendments.

also, fyi, MG ben (THE BEAST) butler was STILL selling slaves (including numerous kidnapped FREE men/women!) in New Orleans in the fall of '63. (the EP did NOT apply in "yankee-occupied LA").

free dixie,sw

297 posted on 04/24/2005 12:50:30 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: JohnPigg
TOO BAD more people don't fly the S&B!

i, otoh, fly a 5x8 3rd National 24/365.

that TOO is a BEAUTIFUL FLAG & it is the flag of dixie till the Southron Congress meeets again & changes it.

free dixie,sw

298 posted on 04/24/2005 12:54:13 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: M. Espinola
granted BUT there ALSO are ENEMIES of LIBERTY in the USA.

they're called DAMNYANKEES! can't you get that through your empty head????

free dixie,sw

299 posted on 04/24/2005 12:58:38 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: dixiechick2000
ACTUALLY the figure for slaveowners BOTH NORTH & SOUTH was about 5-6%.(the percentage of the population that OWNED slaves was ABOUT equal all over the nation.)

FEW people actually owned even one slave. most that did own any slaves,had MANY. (my home county in 1860 had a TOTAL of THREE slaveowners. one owned ONE (his wife);one owned THREE;the last had over 100.)

in point of fact, only about THREE PERCENT (3%)of dixie's "lads in gray" were slaveowners. they were fighting to PRESERVE FREEDOM for their family/county/state & for their rights as citizens.

free dixie,sw

300 posted on 04/24/2005 1:06:40 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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