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The Future of the Submarine - Emerging Threats, Sensors & Transparent Oceans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S96oRLoE0Zk ^ | 5/19/2024 | Perun

Posted on 05/19/2024 9:23:09 AM PDT by Chode

In some respects, advanced submarines are a kind final boss of sorts in the world of naval warfare. Stealthy and well armed, for many nations these resource intensive platforms have underpinned naval strategy and nuclear deterrence for years. Investments in submarines and their associated industrial bases have been on the rise in countries like the USA and PRC for years, and we've seen new powers either obtain or seek to obtain nuclear submarine capability.

But much of the value of the submarine comes from the assumption that submerging brings stealth. And with new or predicted technological developments, some are predicting that in coming years or decades, that assumption may no longer hold true.

So today, we look at submarines, some of the technologies that might threaten them, and ask what the future might bring for these underwater hunters.


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1 posted on 05/19/2024 9:23:09 AM PDT by Chode
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To: Chode

I was in subs from 1980 to 85 (Nuc MM, ELT on USS Flasher SSN-613); not sure they are very stealthy niw with all the tech. Wouldn’t want to be on one today


2 posted on 05/19/2024 9:53:02 AM PDT by power2 (JMJ)
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To: power2

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3 posted on 05/19/2024 9:57:26 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

I was in subs (Nuc EM) then later an Anti-submarine Warfare Officer on a Frigate. I’ve seen both sides and in a hot war I’d take the sub 100% of the time.


4 posted on 05/19/2024 10:53:33 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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5 posted on 05/19/2024 10:59:16 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

I’ve always been a great admirer of submarines (and their crews) as a fighting force. But the advances in miniaturization and sensor technology leave me skeptical about the traditional subs long-term efficacy. Perhaps there are some new stealth technologies and innovative designs that will change things, but I agree with one of the posters above who said that “he would not want to be on one” (presumably if the shooting starts between superpowers).


6 posted on 05/19/2024 11:09:55 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Chode
was an STS in both FBMs and Fast boats from 80 to 92, going to be interesting to see what happens with this new Caterpillar drive they're developing.
7 posted on 05/19/2024 11:12:59 AM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: Bishop_Malachi

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8 posted on 05/19/2024 11:19:56 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Bottom_Gun

yes it will, SSBN Clancy...


9 posted on 05/19/2024 11:23:27 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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The deadliest weapon in the world is…..a duck.

It can fly, walk, swim and dive.

One minute, you’re feeding it some bread and then, WHAM……it pulls out a machine gun.


10 posted on 05/19/2024 1:08:52 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: blueunicorn6

i hate it when that happens...


11 posted on 05/19/2024 1:50:07 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Bottom_Gun

Old tech. I read that book while on operations in the med getting my Line of Death charter membership.


12 posted on 05/19/2024 1:54:06 PM PDT by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: Chode

So do I.

Fortunately, my Dad taught me to never trust a duck, or a man wearing rings on all his fingers.

I always have a pistol behind that loaf of bread.


13 posted on 05/19/2024 1:57:25 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: blueunicorn6

good man...


14 posted on 05/19/2024 2:16:00 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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