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Expert links gun control to high rate of break-ins (duh)
National Post ^ | Dan Rowe

Posted on 12/21/2001 6:42:28 AM PST by Sir Gawain

Expert links gun control to high rate of break-ins

Dan Rowe
National Post

Canadians are more likely to have their homes broken into than Americans, and one expert believes Canada's strict gun-control laws may be part of the reason.

A Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics report released yesterday said Canada had 954 break-ins per 100,000 residents last year, compared to 728 in the United States, although violent crime is far more prevalent south of the border.

That has been the trend since the early 1990s, with property crime generally worse in Canada. Winnipeg and Vancouver had more break-and-enters and auto thefts per capita than any major U.S. city last year.

"In the United States, there are a lot more people with guns and they have the right to protect themselves and their property. That scares off a lot of burglars,'' said Dr. Marc Ouimet, a Université de Montréal criminologist and a leading expert on crime statistics.

Violent crimes such as homicide and robbery still occur far more often in the United States. Of the nine most populous U.S. cities, only Boston had a lower violent crime rate than Winnipeg, Canada's most violent big city.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 12/21/2001 6:42:28 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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2 posted on 12/21/2001 6:42:41 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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BTTT
3 posted on 12/21/2001 6:44:06 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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4 posted on 12/21/2001 6:46:01 AM PST by AStack75
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To: sirgawain
"In the United States, there are a lot more people with guns and they have the right to protect themselves and their property. That scares off a lot of burglars,'' said Dr. Marc Ouimet, a Université de Montréal criminologist and a leading expert on crime statistics.

Wow! I've known that for years...without having a doctorate in ciminology.

So, I guess this means those 250 million hand guns and rifles Americans possess really are deterrents to crime.
5 posted on 12/21/2001 6:48:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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LOL Comical!
7 posted on 12/21/2001 6:55:18 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: coteblanche

For your perusal!

8 posted on 12/21/2001 6:58:12 AM PST by Colt .45
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Expert links gun control to high rate of break-ins.

As long as you're on my list for today, your liberal explanation of this would be what?

9 posted on 12/21/2001 7:00:12 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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A Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics report released yesterday said Canada had 954 break-ins per 100,000 residents last year, compared to 728 in the United States,

I'm going to have that line tattooed on my fore head.

10 posted on 12/21/2001 7:04:09 AM PST by tubebender
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Of the nine most populous U.S. cities, only Boston had a lower violent crime rate than Winnipeg, Canada's most violent big city.

One thing they fail to point out here is that in the U.S., the violent crime rate is much, much lower in rural areas. This is not the case in Canada, or in most European countries. Compare the violent crime rates of rural U.S. vs. rural Canada. It's very interesting.

12 posted on 12/21/2001 7:07:10 AM PST by B Knotts
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"Do you think that maybe this is because there aren't so many guns around? :-)

NO ... it's because we have a bigger population than Canada!

13 posted on 12/21/2001 7:08:14 AM PST by Colt .45
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The basic premise of the article is that Canadians are like defenseless sheep waiting for the slaughter, because your government won't let you have the means to defend yourself!

15 posted on 12/21/2001 7:31:51 AM PST by Colt .45
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--one also finds that if homicides committed by the largest "minority", usually committed on others of the same "minority", are removed from the statistics, the homicide rate between Canada and most of the US is about the same, in spite of our less restrictive firearms laws--
16 posted on 12/21/2001 7:32:40 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: coteblanche
Did your read post #12?

If not, here it is in a nutshell:

One thing they fail to point out here is that in the U.S., the violent crime rate is much, much lower in rural areas. This is not the case in Canada, or in most European countries. Compare the violent crime rates of rural U.S. vs. rural Canada. It's very interesting.

We've been molly-codling criminals in this country for about 50 years due to the epedemic of liberalism that is spreading like cancer. You have clusters of individuals in large urban areas that could give a rat's ass about things like the law, respect for property and hard work. Unfortunately in those areas people who do respect those three things are disarmed by the afore-mentioned liberals. Guess what, they become victims to the individuals who don't respect those three things and therefore arm themselves in violation of the law.

In the rural area where "we say grace and we say 'ma'am " those who don't respect the law, property and hard work know we'll bust a cap in their ass if they screw with us. Thus the lower crime rate.

Thinking that guns cause crime is akin to thinking that pencils cause mis-spelled words.

17 posted on 12/21/2001 7:33:55 AM PST by Abundy
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This would have ended with the wrong people getting shot in Montreal...wouldn't it?

Robbery suspect injured in gunfight
News/Current Events
Source: Columbus Dispatch
Published: 21 December 2001 Author: Jodi Nirode
Posted on 12/21/01 8:46 AM Eastern by Deadeye Division

Robbery suspect injured in gunfight
Friday, December 21, 2001

Jodi Nirode
Dispatch Staff Reporter

A quiet Obetz pizza shop erupted in gunfire last night when a business owner opened fire on a robber, possibly saving the lives of an employee and customer.

About 9 p.m., a gunman wearing a ski mask walked into Ricardo's Pizza Shop, 4265 Alum Creek Dr., and demanded money, Obetz Police Sgt. Glenn Goldsberry said.

The shop's owner, Rick Snyder, said he complied but the money in the till wasn't good enough for the masked gunman.

"He wanted me to show him where the safe was. I told him I didn't have a safe. He didn't believe me,'' Snyder said.

The gunman then ordered Snyder and a customer who was inside to get down on their knees and empty their pockets.

"He kept saying 'I'm going to kill you,' '' as he kept moving his handgun back and forth between two men's heads.

Snyder said he feared the gunman was about to carry out his threat when Joe Loy, the shop's driver, came in.

The gunman turned his attentions to Loy, ordering him outside to kneel in front of the business.

Snyder said that's when he grabbed his .357-caliber revolver that had been sitting in plain view by the cash register.

Loy told police that the robber cocked the gun next to his head as Snyder came out firing. Snyder emptied his six-shot revolver and the gunman fired several shots as he ran away, Goldsberry said.

"It was like a country-western shootout. We were like 5 feet away,'' firing at one another, Snyder said.

Spent shell casings and bloodied bullets that went through the gunman lay around the business.

Snyder, a former Navy SEAL, proved to be the better shot.

Shortly after, a 28-year-old man who had been shot five times was dropped off at Mount Carmel East and later transferred to Mount Carmel West.

Whoever left the man at the hospital sped off.

The man was in surgery late last night, and his condition was unknown, police said.

Snyder, who was at Mount Carmel West waiting to identify the wounded man, was not hurt in the shootout.

He said he was pulling for the man.

"Even though he didn't have any remorse for us, I don't want him to die,'' Snyder said.

He said he wondered whether the robbery and shooting were related to a threat he received about a week ago from a man demanding a free pizza. Snyder refused and exchanged words with the man.

The man then allegedly threatened Snyder.

Snyder said he called 911, but Obetz police refused to take a report.

Goldsberry acknowledged that Snyder was told the threat wasn't worthy of a 911 call, but said it was too early to speculate whether the two were connected.

The sergeant said he wanted to see whether the robbery could be connected to another on Alum Creek Drive earlier this week where a man made off with two beers.

The man was chased by Obetz police. The chase was called off when the man appeared to be reaching for a gun.

BTW - Not sure if I ever told you that I'm a former police officer and now an attorney. Guns protect our very freedoms in our country, which is why we will always be "citizens" and not "subjects."

18 posted on 12/21/2001 7:49:21 AM PST by Abundy
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