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FBI FOREKNOWLEDGE: Laden Suspect (Moussauoi) in OKC Bombings and WTC Attacks Identified &Jailed
Star Tribune (Minneapolis) ^ | September 15, 2001 | David Chanen

Posted on 09/15/2001 12:35:57 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner

A man who trained briefly at an Eagan flight school this summer is believed to have been a high-ranking operative for Osama bin Laden.

Law enforcement authorities confirmed reports that the student pilot is being investigated in connection with the terrorist organization that officials suspect is responsible for the attacks Tuesday on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Just days after Zacarias Moussaoui was arrested in mid-August for carrying a false passport, the FBI was told by French intelligence officials that he was a high-ranking operative in Bin Laden's organization, according to media reports and a law enforcement official.

Zacharias Moussauoi

On Friday, authorities transferred Moussaoui from a Minnesota jail, but wouldn't say where he was taken.

A reporter for Europe 1 Radio in Paris and the Boston Herald have reported that Moussaoui was carrying Algerian and French passports, but that one had been forged.

When the FBI learned about the passport they contacted French intelligence officials, who said he had strong ties in the terrorist organization, according to the news media reports and a law enforcement official. The FBI was also told Moussaoui had recently travelled to Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the group has been known to be active.

Agents for at least three local and federal law enforcement agencies have been working out of the Minneapolis office of the FBI around the clock on local leads, authorities said.

At least three local defense attorneys say they have been contacted by people of Arabic descent, including one from New Jersey, seeking advice or representation. Those people, described as "ancillary" to the investigation, say they have been approached or interviewed by federal authorities and fear cooperating further without an attorney present.

One attorney described the Twin Cities investigation as "very aggressive."

Minneapolis FBI Agent Jay Brunn and Immigration and Naturalization Service spokesman Tim Counts said they were instructed not to comment on any aspect of the investigation. Federal prosecutors also have declined to comment.

It's unclear which FBI bureau was making inquires with French authorities about Moussaoui. He had been arrested Aug. 17 on suspicion of illegally entering the United States.

After his arrest, an FBI search of his home turned up technical literature on airline and flight manuals, said Frederic Helbert, a reporter with Europe 1 Radio.

Several days after the terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington, D.C., the FBI again contacted French intelligence officials for information about Moussaoui, Helbert said.

Moussaoui, who Helbert said is half-French and half-Algerian, wanted to rent time on a flight simulator at the Eagan pilot training school but never completed his training, law enforcement sources have said. The chief flight instructor at Airman Flight School in Norman, Okla., said Moussaoui studied last spring for a private pilot's license but never obtained it at the school.

The school was told by Moussaoui that he was a French national of Moroccan descent and had last lived in London. After his arrest, the FBI visited the school to ask about Moussaoui.

It is unknown how long Moussaoui was in Minnesota before he was arrested. The Pan Am Training Center is located in buildings in Eagan owned by Northwest Airlines. Pan Am buys blocks of time to use the flight simulators for its own training and also rents time to other airlines and individuals.

Moussaoui completed 57 hours of study in Oklahoma but never flew solo. He contracted for his private pilot certificate but didn't complete it. Typically, a private pilot's license can be earned with 40 hours of instruction, including five to 10 hours of solo time.

But an instructor at the Pan Am training center became suspicious because Moussaoui was asking so many questions, Helbert said. And officials said suspicion would be aroused if a student pilot who hadn't yet received his private pilot's license wanted time on a simulator for a commercial jet.

Simulators, which resemble space shuttles in theater-like rooms, imitate takeoff and landing. The pilot can select flight patterns to various U.S. cities, including Washington, D.C.

The FBI's investigation into the terrorist attacks on the East Coast have also lead to the activities of a Saudi man with Minnesota connections who attended a Florida flight school and who reportedly died in one of the suicide assaults.

Abdulrahman Saeed Alomari, 38, rented a house for more than a year in Vero Beach, Fla., while attending that flight school. While Alomari was living in Florida, he had a Minnesota ID that showed an address on Berkeley Avenue in St. Paul. The house listed on the card is owned by a 73-year-old woman who rent rooms to foreigners who take English language courses from a program that leases space at the University of St. Thomas campus.

She said she believed Alomari is the brother of Ali Alamri, 27, a Saudi student to whom she rented a room last year. Alamri told her that his brother was a pilot with a Saudi airline and was going to get more training in Florida.


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This article was originally entiteles "Bin Laden suspect transferred from Minnesota jail" A former TV reporter in OKC who worked on the OKC bombing case thinks this guy was involved in the OKC bombing with McVeigh. This guy lived near OKC and was attending a flight school in Norman near OKC. BBC (story posted on FR: "FBI 'Ignores Leads'")reported that the French gave US authorities details about this guy over a month ago that suggested the plot on the WTC. The French are upset there info was not taken more seriously by FBI to avert the WTC attacks since many Europerans were also killed. Minneapolis TV station KARE11.com has more details.

MORE:

Last night NBC News (about 8 pm CST-I personally watched this story)reported that three pilot suspects were in custody in the Caymen islands connected to the WTC attacks on 9/11/01. NBC News showed a letter dated 9/6/01 and sent to Caymen authorities that was also sent to US authorities before 9/11 that detailed plans related to the WTC attacks and gave details about the three men that are now under arrest in the Cayman Islands. If anyone finds an article on this please post it on FR and send me a copy.

Also please add this article to your FBI/CIA "forewarning or foreknowledge" lists.

David Shippers Speaks Out!!

News/Current Events News

Posted on 09/13/2001 17:07:20 PDT by DataPro01

David Shippers, former House legal counsel for the impeachment investigation and author of Sell Out, was interviewed by Quinn on his radio show this AM. Shippers had some very interesting things to say....some examples, Shippers claims that he contacted the Justice Dept weeks agon with warnings that a large terrorist strike involving southern Manhattan was imimnent. He was ignored. He also states that our best Middle Eastern terrorist expert, an FBI agent, has yet to be consulted. Essentially, Shippers is stating that when all is said and done the American public will find that the authorities had lots of information on a potential strike yet did nothing...and that the quick arrests are because of this fact...and the brave actions of flight attendants who phoned in the seat numbers of the terrorists before they were killed. I think this information needs to be heard and discussed...and have been urging national news shows to interview Shippers ASAP. Shippers interview with Quinn can be heard archived at www.warroom.com/archives the Wed 9/12 show.

1 Posted on 09/13/2001 17:07:20 PDT by DataPro01

1 posted on 09/15/2001 12:35:57 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: t-shirt,golitely,Uncle Bill,Judge Parker,LSJohn,BlueDogDemo,Wallaby,roughrider,rwz,bub,honway,bub
BUMP
2 posted on 09/15/2001 12:37:23 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Nita Nupress,kattracks,JohnHuang2,Squantos,freedomnews,thinden,Fred Mertz,Plummz,Abundy
BUMP
3 posted on 09/15/2001 12:38:29 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan, Jim Robinson
BUMP
4 posted on 09/15/2001 12:39:19 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: testforecho
Please see my commentary at bottom of the article I posted.

Sorry I did not realize you had posted this on Breaking News. But I think it is good to also be on Front Page News so it will stay up longer for all to read. Also please see my info in my commentary on this story which adds and ties many more details together about this guy and about the FBI/DOJ Foreknowledge.

Please consider alerting all the people who responded in the thread for your story so they can learn more of the details in my commentary.

5 posted on 09/15/2001 12:46:19 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Allow me to bump this important thread! [Bookmarked it also!]
6 posted on 09/15/2001 12:47:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: OKCSubmariner
This is so deeply troubling,Is this type of information being with held from our justice system deliberatly by terrorist within our own FBI?
7 posted on 09/15/2001 12:49:15 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: OKCSubmariner
Please see also 2 terrorists visited school in Norman . More details were given on local news than are reported in this article, such as the fact that the authorities were sniffing around the Norman flight school over two weeks ago. We were not caught totally unaware. They did have prior knowledge about this. Worse, it probably could have been stopped in 1995 when the evidence of these M.E. cells began to surface. Alas, the Clinton/Reno "justice" department decided to bury it.
8 posted on 09/15/2001 12:55:22 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: OKCSubmariner
Let's assume that muslim terrorists were involved in the OKC bombing. Why do you think the U.S. government would have covered it up? Not everyone in D.C. would think it more important to target militia groups than foreign terrorists.
9 posted on 09/15/2001 1:00:22 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: testforecho
Please see my commentary at bottom of the article I posted.

Sorry I did not realize you had posted this on Breaking News. But I think it is good to also be on Front Page News so it will stay up longer for all to read. Also please see my info in my commentary on this story which adds and ties many more details together about this guy and about the FBI/DOJ Foreknowledge.

Please consider alerting all the people who responded in the thread for your story so they can learn more of the details in my commentary.

10 posted on 09/15/2001 1:11:37 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: golitely
Thanks much for the heads up in reply #8.
11 posted on 09/15/2001 1:15:36 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Sorry I did not realize you had posted this on Breaking News

That's okay, no problem.

12 posted on 09/15/2001 1:25:05 PM PDT by testforecho
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To: OKCSubmariner
bttt
13 posted on 09/15/2001 1:28:56 PM PDT by Chapita
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To: syriacus, he808bass, lormand
bump. Don't know yet if I believe all of it.

Given the level of clampdown on all info, we probably won't know for some time, just like the shoot down/passenger takeover debate on the other threads.

14 posted on 09/15/2001 1:33:22 PM PDT by testforecho
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thanks for the post. I'm not a big believer in coincidences anymore and there's some real big "coincidences" here. I'm not laying the blame at the Feebs door, it just seems as if maybe we should just start over at DOJ from scratch.
15 posted on 09/15/2001 1:42:07 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: independentmind
and where now are the iraqi republican guard troops allowed into the U.S. by bushtheelder?
16 posted on 09/15/2001 1:42:19 PM PDT by IRtorqued
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To: OKCSubmariner
You forgot me!

Good post.

17 posted on 09/15/2001 2:33:33 PM PDT by carenot
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To: independentmind
Let's assume that muslim terrorists were involved in the OKC bombing. Why do you think the U.S. government would have covered it up? Not everyone in D.C. would think it more important to target militia groups than foreign terrorists.

the cover up was necessary because so many gummit ops/ provacatuers were involved in the event.

remember the backdrop of the '94 congressional landslide revolution led by "the contract with america". conservative thinking was becoming "mainstream" as the people were becoming increasingly upset with the Klinton adminstrations corruption.

the militia movement, hate talk radio, and the christian identity movement became guilty by association as the spinmiesters tied timmy to their coattails. bubba's biggest threat was stopped dead in its track on april 19, 1995.

ME perp (tho ME prolly involved in the big bang) would not have the desired effect of stopping the growing tides of conservatives. ***just my opinion..pass the reynolds wrap, please.

18 posted on 09/15/2001 2:48:01 PM PDT by thinden
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To: OKCSubmariner
A former TV reporter in OKC who worked on the OKC bombing case thinks this guy was involved in the OKC bombing with McVeigh.
This is the basis for your title?

Weak, boy. Very weak ...

Give up this 'jihad' of yours - McVeigh ADMITTED he did it already ... just what is it that YOU want out of this -

- more press/article exposure?

... the rivero saga continues ...

19 posted on 09/15/2001 4:38:05 PM PDT by _Jim
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