VANITY: URGENT REQUEST....RESEARCH HELP NEEDED

VANITY | 7/25/03 | ExSoldier

[snippy_about_it]

http://members.tripod.com/LestYouForget/floridak.htm

appears to be from Florida, maybe his mother can be found there?

You could do a search of Florida records for Shaddick possibly.

Hope this helps, good luck.

Thanks in the Arena for pinging the Foxhole.

[snippy_about_it]

This is the last of what I have. You may have most of this but perhaps something will help. Good luck exsoldier.



http://216.239.33.104/search?q=cache:Lu4E7jqSiksJ:www.kimsoft.com/korea/mia-us.htm+shaddick++MIA&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Lt. Gilbert Ashley, Lt. Harold Turner, Lt. Arthur Olsen, Lt. John Shaddick and Airman Hidemaru Ishida - crew members of a B29 shot down on January 29, 1953 - were known to be alive as of April 23, 1953. It is suspected that Ashley was working for (or forced to) the N Korean counterintelligence, which routinely used captured pilots as baits to lure US planes and rescue units into ambush.
The last message heard of the captives was received on August 6, 1953 from a group of American agents in N Korea (which supposedly rescued the airmen) - "Many agents were killed to rescue and guard the aviators. We were awakened from your deadly murderous action. We will not work anymore for you. Furthermore we resolved that in case you don't give us an answer regarding this message by 1700 hours 4th August we will surrender to NK after we killed the five aviators in revenge."



http://www.aiipowmia.com/faxnet/fxrescue813.html

To: ALL

From: Bob Necci & Carol Hrdlicka, Andi Wolos
(POW-MIA FaxNetwork)

Re: USAF Reprot Details Rescue Attempt

Date: August 13, 1997

Regarding the USAF report that was declassified this week, the account of a rescue attempt to gain the release of five B-29 crewmembers is chilling.

On 24 May 1953, the US mounted an exercise to obtain the freedom of five men - First Lieutenants Gilbert Ashley, Arthur Olsen and Harold Turner, Second Lt. John Shaddick and Airman Second Class Hidemaro Ishida.

According to three other B-29 crews, there was a 'signal' of flashing lights. A report was authored by the Escape and Evasion Section of the 6004th Air Intelligence Service Squadron, and a rescue attempt, codenamed - Green Dragon - launched.

Ashley was able to communicate with the pilot of the rescue effort and as a result the Green Dragon Team was able to lock into Ashley's location. The aircraft sustained heavy damage, and the mission aborted.

If they ever launched another mission or why, if they didn't, may never be known. All we do know is that 43 years after the fact, the Air Force declassifies a report which ends up in the national Archives. And within its pages we read the names of men and their words... and we know they never returned. And we have to ask ourselves, where are they?


http://www.theriver.com/Public/gcompany/usaf-p-z.htm

Air Force


SHADDICK, JOHN PHILIP III AO-2221920 1LT O2
Status=MIA, Unit=28TH BOMB SQ, Incident Date=1/29/53,
Date Repatriated=, Vehicle Type=B-29, Vehicle ID=,
Home State=FL, Home City=CORAL GABLES,
Date of Birth=10/17/27, Date of Death=1/30/54




http://kalaniosullivan.com/KunsanAB/3rdBW/POWMIA1.html

POSSIBLY DOZENS OF MISSING AIRMEN WERE ALIVE IN CHINA OR NORTH KOREA AT END OF KOREAN WAR: (AUG 97)
Date: August 6, 1997

WASHINGTON, Aug 6 (Reuter) - U.S. officials concluded at least five and possibly dozens of missing airmen were alive in Chinese or North Korean hands when the Korean War ended in July 1953, according to a newly declassified Air Force report.

The report, dated Oct. 19, 1955, described a bold but failed attempt to rescue the five, members of a B-29 bomb crew shot down near Pyongyang on Jan. 29, 1953.

Unanswered questions about the fate of the some 8,100 Americans still listed as unaccounted for from the war is one of the many issues that the United States is pursuing with North Korea.

Recently, the Defence Department has begun pressing China for information on specific U.S. prisoners possibly sent there from North Korean camps but never heard of again, Pentagon officials said.

Both China and North Korea, allies during the war against U.S.-led United Nations forces, have said they withheld no U.S. prisoners from the fighting.

The previously secret intelligence report, obtained by Reuters on Wednesday, listed the cases of 137 Air Force personnel ``who may possibly be alive, or may have been alive in Communist captivity at one time'' during the war.

It said the five, who did not return when prisoners were exchanged nor have been otherwise accounted for, ``were known to be alive in Communist hands at the close of the Korean conflict.''

Names of the five were already part of a Pentagon compilation of 389 missing servicemen from the war about whose fate U.S. officials say China or North Korea should have information.

Chinese forces managed North Korean prisoner-of-war camps during much of the war and in some cases sent U.S. POWs to China for interrogation.

In what appeared to be a gesture of good will, North Korean officials on Monday handed over remains said to belong to four Americans killed in a 1950 clash with Chinese forces near Unsan, due north of Pyongyang and about 20 miles (32 kilometres) south of China's border.

The declassified report disclosed a May 24, 1953 effort to snatch back the five-man B-29 crew: First Lieutenants Gilbert Ashley, Arthur Olsen and Harold Turner, Second Lt. John Shaddick and Airman Second Class Hidemaro Ishida.

The rescue operation, codenamed Green Dragon, followed the sighting by three other B-29 crews of ``what appeared to be a signal'' made up of flashing lights, said the report, prepared by the Escape and Evasion Section of the 6004th Air Intelligence Service Squadron.

It said the pilot of the rescue craft somehow made radio contact with Ashley on the ground and that Ashley helped them zero in on his location.

``The pilot reported that the voice was definitely that of the American who had previously been identified as Lt. Ashley,'' the report added. It said on approaching the pick-up site the aircraft was damaged by enemy fire from at least two directions, forcing the mission to be aborted.

``Rescue officials soon determined the (U.S.) aviators were actually under the control of Communist troops, who were using them to get supplies and equipment,'' co-authors James Sanders, Mark Sauter and Cort Kirkwood wrote in their 1992 book ``Soldiers of Misfortune.''

Ashley, of Rock Hall, Maryland, was 30 at the time of his shootdown. The Air Force had no comment on the declassified report, which was made available at the National Archives.

Dolores Alfond, chair of the National Alliance of Families for the Return of America's Missing Servicemen, said the report illustrated her view that the Pentagon was wrongly focusing on digging up bones rather than pressing for any survivors.

``It's not our policy to be looking for living Americans,'' she said in a telephone interview from her home in Bellevue, Washington. ``The American policy is to be looking for remains. That's our whole problem.''

[in the Arena]

Dang!!! You guys are on the ball...

[SAMWolf]

You're welcome.

Hope that you can use some of that to get some more leads.

[SAMWolf]

Paul T. Ono wrote on 2001-11-25 14:39:41,
Sgmpto@aol.com
Unit: 6004th AISS, Tokyo, Japan

Comments: I am trying to contact any member(s) of the 6004th AISS, Korea Detachments (1,2,3,4) who had knowledge or were familiar with Operation "Green Dragon", which took place on 24 May 1953 to attempt a rescue of the "Ashley Five". I have read Maj David M Taylor's account in the NEWS DIGEST. I had attended tech school at Lowry AFB in '51 with one of the Ashley Five Members. Will appreciate any information available.

You might try contacting Mr. Ono and see if he has any more info.

[snippy_about_it]

Dang!!! You guys are on the ball...

With all the history research SAMWolf and I do for the Foxhole threads we tend to get pretty good at it and we are pretty quick if I do say so myself, and I do. lol.

Seriously, we just hope it can help.

Thanks again for thinking of us, we're glad to offer the effort to help especially when it comes to our Veterans and any of our Military, that's what the Foxhole is all about.

[backhoe]

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1.	6004th Air Intelligence Service Squadron...   (open window) [] [Similar Results] ... Detachments (1,2,3,4) who had knowledge or were familiar with Operation "Green Dragon", which took place on 24 May 1953 to attempt a rescue of the "Ashley Five ... URL: http://www.koreanwar.org/html/units/usaf/6004... [Yahoo! #1,Lycos #1,Raging Search #1,AltaVista #1] Score: 29%
2.	31st Regimental Combat Team- Korean War ...   (open window) [] [Similar Results] Honoring: The Ashley Five and all who gave their lives in Korea. Korean War Project - P.O. Box 180190 - Dallas - Texas 75218-0190 - 214-320-0342 URL: http://www.koreanwar.org/html/units/31rct.htm [Teoma #1] Score: 24%
3.	BBC News | The Company File | US preache...   (open window) [] [Similar Results] Controversial TV evangelist Pat Robertson resigns from the board of Laura Ashley, five days after Bank of Scotland severed its links with him. URL: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/the... [MSN #6] Score: 22%
4.	1st Marine Graves Platoon - 1st Marine D...   (open window) [] [Similar Results] Honoring: The Ashley Five and all who gave their lives in Korea. Korean War Project - P.O. Box 180190 - Dallas - Texas 75218-0190 - 214-320-0342 URL: http://www.koreanwar.org/html/units/usmc/1mar... [Teoma #2] Score: 20%
5.	Bookstore Book   (open window) [] [Similar Results] ... In Action This Page Made Possible By Paul T. Ono Honoring: The Ashley Five and all who gave their lives in Korea Korean War Project - P.O. Box 180190 - Dallas - Texas 75218-0190 - 214-320-0342 . URL: http://www.koreanwar.org/html/bookstore_book.... [WiseNut #8] Score: 18%

[Badray]

bttt

[King Prout]

I'll look around, but can promise nothing.

[razorback-bert]

Will ask around the CAF next time, I attend a meeting.

[PhilDragoo]

Have query out to Army intel in charge of Chinese order of battle for 8th Army 55-56.

Per Amy Waters Yarsinske, No One Left Behind, that's precisely what DPMO, Boorda and a host of aholes did with Speicher.

Here's an interesting query. Perhaps you can compare notes:

6004th AISS, Korea Detach. Members
Message: 20982 - Paul T. Ono wrote on 2001-11-25 14:39:41,
Sgmpto@aol.com
Unit: 6004th AISS, Tokyo, Japan

Comments: I am trying to contact any member(s) of the 6004th AISS, Korea Detachments (1,2,3,4) who had knowledge or were familiar with Operation "Green Dragon", which took place on 24 May 1953 to attempt a rescue of the "Ashley Five". I have read Maj David M Taylor's account in the NEWS DIGEST. I had attended tech school at Lowry AFB in '51 with one of the Ashley Five Members. Will appreciate any information available.

Keywords: "Ashley Five" - B29 from the 28th Bomb Sqdn, 19th Bomb Grp, Kadena Air Base, Okinawa. Shot down over Pyongang, N. Korea on 29 Dec 1953.

[ExSoldier]

Thanks I have already been in contact with Paul Ono. To the best of my knowledge, Maj Taylor is deceased. But I would like to find that article in NEWS DIGEST do you have a link for that? Thanks again!

[PhilDragoo]

Paul Ono would have that.

[ExSoldier]

I just sent Mr Ono an e-mail asking for a copy of the article and to pay any associated costs for copying and postage. Thanks, good idea.

[ExSoldier]

Sorry didn't mean to reply to myself...I just asked Paul Ono if he would send me a copy of Major Taylor's article...good idea, thanks.

[ExSoldier]

"Have you contacted your congresscritter about having one of his/her many flunkies (paid with your tax dollars) do a bit of research?"

Just home from the IDPA match/raffle/barbeque. Man there were a hundred families there to shoot and fellowship with other strong supporters of the 2nd Amendment. Raffled off a custom 45...good food, GREAT SHOOTING...couldn't ask for a better day. Except for the godawful south Florida heat and humidity. Man, I gotta move to the western Carolina mountains!

The congresscritter's staff director was on hand and she received my request with a good degree of reverence....and promised to put somebody on an archive search ASAP. I'll call her next week.

Another freeper, who was in the POW/MIA section of the Pentagon e-mailed me thanks to Travis McGee and gave me some VALUABLE input and another good point of contact. Y'all came through for me...and my family! Thanks!

[PhilDragoo]

My friend replied, "I am familiar with several of these Korean War MIA stories, but have never heard of this one. Perhaps the Library of Congress or the DoD Historian's Office has something on it."

More via FReepmail.

[rockfish59]

Wow! I wouldn't know where to look.
But, I wish you all the luck in the world.
Will this be a PBS story?

[ExSoldier]

" Will this be a PBS story?"

Nope...it's a full length screenplay. My agent is going to approach Speilberg first and go from there. He says the interest in Korea is intense right now.

[rockfish59]

Wow! Big time!

Tom Hanks mows down the Reds! I like it! =^)