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To: Billyv

” ...Remember, only 3% of the colonials in America won the revolution. The enemy knows this too.”

They did not.

The fledgling United States won only a single strategic victory during the entire AWI: the battles of Saratoga.

The Founders (chiefly General Washington) succeeded, rather, in not losing: they kept the cause alive, avoiding total military defeat until the diplomats (Ben Franklin, with some help) convinced the French to intervene. Spain came in too, then the Netherlands. The British suddenly had a four-way world war to deal with; military forces and other resources had to be diverted to defense of other parts of their empire. Public support for retaking the American colonies declined. They cut their losses by signing the peace treaty acknowledging American independence.

Drawing generalized conclusions from historical example is an uncertain business. It only gets murkier when one is ignorant of the strategic fundamentals at the outset.

Forum members are likely correct in their estimate that Western Civ will have to get a lot rougher with the Islamics, before the odds of success turn in our favor.


81 posted on 07/25/2016 1:46:36 AM PDT by schurmann
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To: schurmann

You’re forgetting the Battle of Trenton.


100 posted on 09/03/2016 5:37:52 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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