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Gettysburg: Day 1 (149 Years)
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Posted on 07/01/2012 7:26:55 AM PDT by chargers fan

I know that the real focus on Gettysburg will be next year with the 150th anniversary then but I found a Hard Rock band that put together a "Rock Opera" of the battle and figured the 149th was a good enough time to show it. Days 2 and three to follow.


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KEYWORDS: civilwar; confederate; gettysburg; union

1 posted on 07/01/2012 7:27:04 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: chargers fan

Sorry here’s the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dud6UYOfkO4
I’ve always wondered what it would be like to be in Buford’s command that day.


2 posted on 07/01/2012 7:33:57 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: chargers fan

Whenever we watch the movie, I find myself talking out loud at the screen, telling Lee not to walk those men across that open field. It was a moment of madness.

Without Gettysburg, we would never know of Joshua Chamberlain.


3 posted on 07/01/2012 7:34:51 AM PDT by lurk
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To: chargers fan

That reminds me....it’s been too long since I watched Gettysburg. Thanks.


4 posted on 07/01/2012 7:36:27 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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General Lee (first day). “Tell your commander to take those heights if practical”.

(((Those heights were Cemetery Ridge.....dohhh!!!!)))

General Longstreet (first day). “We have ‘em now sir. Just find a nice piece of high ground between here and DC and let the Yanks come to us like at Fredericksburg.


5 posted on 07/01/2012 7:48:08 AM PDT by ak267
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To: chargers fan
My ggg-GF fought at Gettysburg w/ the 29th Pennsylvania Volunteers.
They lost fifteen killed, forty-five wounded and fourteen missing.
Our family still has his sword.

6 posted on 07/01/2012 7:48:58 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: chargers fan

One of the nice things about the movie is a lot more people now know about Buford and he was played by the ultimate quiet badass Sam Elliott.


7 posted on 07/01/2012 8:06:42 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: oh8eleven

“My ggg-GF fought at Gettysburg w/ the 29th Pennsylvania Volunteers.
They lost fifteen killed, forty-five wounded and fourteen missing.
Our family still has his sword.”

Wow. Was he a confederate?


8 posted on 07/01/2012 8:09:44 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: chargers fan

Thanks for the reminder. I need to plan for a trip to Gettysburg next year.


9 posted on 07/01/2012 8:25:56 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: rockrr

The movie “Gettysburg” is a good film.
Martin Sheen as Lee is awful.
Robert Duvall as Lee would have made this a great film.


10 posted on 07/01/2012 8:26:38 AM PDT by gdzla
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To: chargers fan

One thing about the movie. I’ don’t think Little Round Top had trees, back then. I am under the impression that Little Round Top had been logged off, and was bare of cover.


11 posted on 07/01/2012 8:35:21 AM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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To: lurk

I visited G-burg 10 years ago and wept at the copse of trees on C-ridge when I pondered how suicidal that charge was. The Rebs lost 30% of all troops committed over the 3 days of fighting.


12 posted on 07/01/2012 8:47:37 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Beowulf9
Was he a confederate?
Ahhh, I doooo believe Pennsylvania was not a member of the CSA.
13 posted on 07/01/2012 8:47:53 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Kirkwood
I need to plan for a trip to Gettysburg next year.
With all the PR, Gettysburg will be a zoo next year.
I suggest a trip this fall when it's cool and not many tourists around.
Take a guided tour and don't forget a night time "haunted tour" too. Great fun.
14 posted on 07/01/2012 8:56:04 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: jonascord

You are correct. Little Round had been partially cleared. Scattered boulders/rocks provided cover for Infantry. Per Thomaslegion.net


15 posted on 07/01/2012 9:01:36 AM PDT by donozark (Col. C.Beckwith:I'd rather go down the river with 7 studs than with a hundred shitheads.)
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To: oh8eleven

Didn’t see it was ‘pennsylvania’ volunteers. My ggg also fought at Gettysburg, Bernie Shultz. Don’t know what division, though. My brother knows it, he is a civil war reenactor. Said he didn’t understand the battle till they actually ‘fought’ it.

We rode on horses through the battlefield last year. It’s huge, and I’m so glad they kept it as a National Park.


16 posted on 07/01/2012 9:13:32 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: oh8eleven
I suggest a trip this fall when it's cool and not many tourists around.

If you are planning a fall trip to the Gettysburg area, I would suggest timing it with The National Apple Harvest Festival, held the first two weekends of October.

http://www.appleharvest.com/

Located just outside of Gettysburg in Biglerville, it’s a great old fashion “country fair”. And the country side is beautiful this time of year; the weather cool and the apples great. Lots of great food, vendors of local arts and crafts, pie eating and apple bobbing contests for the kids, music, square dancing, displays of antique cars and old farming equipment, hay rides.

It’s a really good time. I’ve gone there many times since I discovered it by accident while camping in the area with some friends. And it’s close enough to Gettysburg that you can tour the battle fields and go to the festival.

17 posted on 07/01/2012 9:16:03 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Thx - I’ll keep it in mind.


18 posted on 07/01/2012 9:30:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: LS

Have visited many Civil War Battlefields. None so powerful as Gettysburg. Sickles Hole. The Wheatfield. Devil’s Den. Each place has a story.


19 posted on 07/01/2012 9:36:57 AM PDT by donozark (Col. C.Beckwith:I'd rather go down the river with 7 studs than with a hundred shitheads.)
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To: jonascord

“One thing about the movie. I’ don’t think Little Round Top had trees, back then. I am under the impression that Little Round Top had been logged off, and was bare of cover.”

Looked it up. From Forbes sketches I think you are correct.

http://www.gettysburgdaily.com/?p=10905


20 posted on 07/01/2012 9:48:19 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

29th Pennsylvania Volunteers?


21 posted on 07/01/2012 10:02:52 AM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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To: donozark

“EACH PLACE HAS A STORY” INDEED. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DRAWN TO THE
SAD IRONY OF YOUNG ROBERT CULP.
BORN AND RAISED IN GETTYSBURG, WENT DOWN TO VIRGINIA TO FIND WORK,
JOINED A VIRGINIA REGIMENT WHEN THE WAR STARTED. MARCHED WITH THE
STONEWALL BRIGADE THROUGH TWO YEARS OF HARD FIGHTING.

HE WAS KILLED ON THE SECOND DAY’S FIGHT ON CULPS HILL WITHIN SIGHT
OF HIS BIRTHPLACE. FOR THE CONFEDERACY.


22 posted on 07/01/2012 10:11:25 AM PDT by Pompah
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To: wardaddy

“29th Pennsylvania Volunteers?”

No. He came down from New York. I’m not sure, his name may have been Schulting.


23 posted on 07/01/2012 10:12:20 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: chargers fan

My wife’s gg grandmother Virginia Barksdale Wade’s brother General William Barksdale was killed second day near the Plum Run by Willard’s New York “Harpers Ferry Brigade”...

Colonel Willard perished as well in his efforts

leading from the front has it’s drawbacks

We still tend to their family plot here in middle TN though the General is buried in Jackson MS where he and his brother had moved to start cotton and lumber and newspaper endeavors as well as a law practice

and lastly...Chamberlain even though later an eloquent speaker/politician said none of that modern day racial equality rhetoric attributed to him in the movie...likely Jeff Daniels and directors throwing a bone in the PC bowl for hungry dogs


24 posted on 07/01/2012 10:16:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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To: wardaddy
and lastly...Chamberlain even though later an eloquent speaker/politician said none of that modern day racial equality rhetoric attributed to him in the movie...likely Jeff Daniels and directors throwing a bone in the PC bowl for hungry dogs

Believe me. As a genealogist, I have read volumes and volumes of 19th century text. There was no such thing as racial PC in 1863.

25 posted on 07/01/2012 10:20:38 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: wardaddy
"Director's license." Hate it, but it is what they do. Just stick with the facts (as we know them). The movie was interesting. But as you say, they did wonder here and there.

Was the brief portrayal of Gen Barksdale close to accurate? Thinking maybe diaries. Letters?

26 posted on 07/01/2012 10:23:56 AM PDT by donozark (Col. C.Beckwith:I'd rather go down the river with 7 studs than with a hundred shitheads.)
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To: oh8eleven
Our family still has his sword.

That is truly a family treasure. Please make sure that there is some way of keeping it in your family. I'd hate to see it show up on an episode of Pawn Stars.

27 posted on 07/01/2012 10:24:54 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: yankees
no disrespect to Yankees who died brave and just as dead as my kin

but if you are raised in Mississippi and live in Tennessee then these battlefields are a ubiquitous reminder that a savage war was fought here

i grew up in places we would find relics...mainly bullets and minor things though serious hunters found larger intact pieces

i always had the fantasy of course ....finding a perfect saber

my grandfathers place on the Jackson-Clinton road had 20 acres and an old home and they found minie balls and small grape frequently

visits to Vicksburg were common for us given the bluffs were something of an anomaly and it was so close

we had redoubts all over

here in Nashville I lived near Shy’s Hill later in life and had redoubts on my hilltop

now I am just south of Franklin TN and can see the Winstead-Breezy Hill gap where Hood had his command post for his doomed assault on Schofield’s works

it's what forms our perspective down here that northerners except a few in Pennsylvania and Maryland don't grasp

I have been to Manassas, Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville, Grand Gulf, Brices Crossroads, Iuka, Spring Hill, Chicamaugua, Lookout Mt, Okalona, Nashville, Franklin, Jonesborough TN, Fort Donelson, New Market, Pea Ridge, Champions Hill, Vicksburg, Port Hudson, Stones River and Shiloh...likely forgetting a few....Selma...lots of little skirmish-battle spots

of those I think Shiloh wins easily as most interesting battlefield

Vicksburg sure has some big northern monuments though which are works of art by themselves

kids down here who pay attention and are raised right ...know these things...but I bet in another 100 years it will all be overshadowed by a New America that looks nothing like itself

just look how immigration transformed the North from those who fought for the Union in 1860s...I would wager a majority of northerners today have no kin or just one side who fought in the war whereas..us down here...the losers as we are commonly called...still have overwhelming genetic ties to those who fought and died

i actually had this conversation with a friend from Illinois yesterday of German descent

i'm older parent and my boys are up to snuff

but i watch Gen X and younger and I have my doubts...too much kool aid...too much time

28 posted on 07/01/2012 10:40:19 AM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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To: donozark

Barksdale was older by those standards...long white hair

and was killed late in the second day charging as was the wont of CSA commanders in those days

i assume it was accurate...my memories of the movie are now scant

Barksdale had a reputation as an “enthusiastic” person whether in politics as a major firebreather or war as a commander...and that likely led to making him a sweet target up front waving on troops

it was just something they did more then and it was costly especially for the South

but I was not crazy with Sheen as Lee...not even...Duvall was so much better

Elliot as Buford was great though...his deep country voice sure gives gravitas

my memories of the latter movie are better


29 posted on 07/01/2012 10:50:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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To: gdzla

I wasn’t that struck by Duvall as Lee in Gods and Generals but perhaps that is because he got so little screen time. It seemed pretty much that the entire movie was the “Stonewall Jackson Story.” However, that might have been due to the way Shaara wrote G&G (from having read Gone for Soldiers and Last Full Measure I know that he often does have most of the book seen through one person’s eyes).


30 posted on 07/01/2012 11:09:13 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: chargers fan

Four of my great-grandfathers fought for the Confederacy (Virginia), only one was at Gettysburg. He was a private in the 49th Virginia Infantry. My wife’s great-grandfather was in a NC unit and was captured at Gettysburg on July 3rd. He died as a prisoner of war at Fort Delaware and is buried in New Jersey.


31 posted on 07/01/2012 12:46:38 PM PDT by wfu_deacons
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To: catfish1957
I'd hate to see it show up on an episode of Pawn Stars.
Oh man, did you hit a hot button with me. Feckin' ungrateful losers sell their family history for a few bucks to blow in the casino.
My family has a long history of serving America from the Revolution through Vietnam. We would never consider selling.
32 posted on 07/01/2012 3:21:37 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

His sword? Cool.


33 posted on 07/01/2012 3:24:26 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: wardaddy
We did Shiloh, Vicksburg, Port Hudson, and everything East to North Carolina on the Yankee side, lost a few. Any info on the Miss, McGaugheys they tend be invisible.
34 posted on 07/01/2012 3:39:01 PM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: oh8eleven

I have 2 ggg-Uncles that were killed at Gettysburg as well. They both were killed defending Houck’s Ridge and the 4th NY Artillery that was placed at Devil’s Den. They served with the 124th New York. The “Orange Blossoms”


35 posted on 07/02/2012 8:34:09 PM PDT by ConservativeNewYorker (FDNY 343 NYPD 23 PAPD 37)
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To: jonascord

One of the things the NPS and historians have been doing recently, is trying to restore the battlefield to its condition during the battle. There has been tree cutting, and replanting of the Peach Orchard and Wheatfield areas.


36 posted on 07/02/2012 8:38:09 PM PDT by ConservativeNewYorker (FDNY 343 NYPD 23 PAPD 37)
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To: ConservativeNewYorker
the 4th NY Artillery
I have another ggGFer who served with the NY 18th Independent Battery. Not at Gettysburg, but did fight at Battle of Mobile Bay.
37 posted on 07/03/2012 5:20:35 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: donozark

Thanks for the web site, have added Thomaslegion.net to my History bookmarks.


38 posted on 07/03/2012 11:40:21 AM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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