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To: robertpaulsen
The "overall good" would be defined as that which perpetuates (or leads to) an environment in which an orderly community of like minded individuals can live and raise children.

On this point, I agree with you in total. It was this exact point, after a good many years of arguing with libertarians, that changed my mind on libertarianism, and led me to become one myself (though I would continue for several more years to reject the LP).

As a political philosophy, libertarianism is the only one that affords people an opportunity (as a right), to form and maintain exclusive communities of like minded people, to live, work, and raise families, free of outside interference. You will not find this right and encouragement any where else on the political spectrum.

If you believe that the "rights" of the individual are supreme (as long as the behavior does not harm others), then we'll never agree.

On this, you sow the seeds that guarantee that people will never be allowed to grow communities of like minded people. You guarantee a perpetual power struggle, of which no complete community standard will ever be allowed to be tried out, let alone grow and prosper to a full maturity. You sow the seeds of anarchy, that will always exist in the one big community, where no individuals or communities can ever really successfully develop, in any meaningful way, a full moral code. Yours are the seeds of your own destruction.

...keep in mind that our Constitution was written for a moral and religious people.

Oh? Hardly so. But I'll leave this one for another time, I have to go to work.

60 posted on 09/28/2003 9:32:17 AM PDT by jackbob
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To: jackbob
"As a political philosophy, libertarianism is the only one that affords people an opportunity (as a right), to form and maintain exclusive communities of like minded people, to live, work, and raise families, free of outside interference."

As long as those "like minded people" prefer uninhibited rampant homosexual and heterosexual sex, all drug use, prostitution on every street corner, and explicit pornography on television, theaters, magazines, etc. -- and wish to have their children exposed to these things -- then yes, libertarianism is indeed the only philosophy that affords people this kind of opportunity.

61 posted on 09/28/2003 3:38:23 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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