What would fit is if this “unworthy” person would actually be a professing, but unsaved person, who somehow had slipped tough the examination of his behavior and enthusiastic but not valid profession of commitment to Christ, but was implementing Achan’s sin (Joshua 7:1-26), bringing sickness and death to the whole congregation because of the inability of the examining board of the church to discern his shortcomings in the faith category. These unworthy fail to discrn their effect on the physical and spiritual health of their surrounding camp of true believers, the local body of believers of Christ, which are the body mentioned in 1 Cor. 11:29. The body in that verse is NOT the Body of the Risen Christ which is now resident in the spiritual dimension of God’s Heaven, no pieces of it being sent back into the earthly temporal realm, as some imaginative religious humans have invented without any scriptural support.
Paul discussed this problem in 1 Corinthians 3:1-2, where he identifies two groups exhibiting carnal (habitually sinful) behavior, the one being professors who were not fully committed into Christ’s care, still unsaved, and thus unable to cease from sinning without repentance; and the other group of new birth which have already been forgiven, but have not yet conquered their old habits. The first group is unworthy and will be judged, but the babes are worthy like real infants who fill their diapers, but are cleaned up and tolerated, continually pampered until they get control of their bowels with proper coaxing.
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1: That’s not what consubstantiation means; you’re making dozens of assumptions about our doctrine of salvation from the simple statement, “It’s the true body and blood of the Lord” and not one of those assumptions is correct. If you’d taken the time to actually read what I’d posted, you’d know that.
2: You are assuming that Lutheran doctrine allows people who are engaged in obviously unrepentant sin to partake, which is untrue.
3: In response to, “You claimed that the “unworthy” partaker of the Remembrance Supper was saved, although still engagng in deliberate unrepentant sin. Didn’t you?” no, I DIDN’T say that; you put those words in my mouth.
5: And this is less an assumption, but an expression of frustration that you’re demanding one-word answers from me and then spending pages blasting me. Last time I tried to answer all your questions, you lectured me about supposedly trying to be evasive. I’m sick of this tactic of trying to limit me while taking plenty of liberties yourself. Again, it looks like the tactics of someone trying to use an Internet script instead of having an actual conversation.
How the heck you got everything you rambled about in your post from, “Yes I believe that the Lord’s Supper is the true body and blood of Christ” and “Unworthy partaking means being guilty of unrepentant sin” is beyond me.
Your definition of "Consubstantiation" means that the substance of the body and blood of Jesus are really present spiritually together with the real substances of bread and grape juice (however corrupted it may be) temporally, each cosubstantial substance taken one after the other; I suppose of His Body incorporated with the baked dough, and His blood ingested with the "wine."
Correct me if that is an erroneous assumption. 2: You are assuming that Lutheran doctrine allows people who are engaged in obviously unrepentant sin to partake, which is untrue.
But, contrarily, that's exactly what you wrote. Did you read what you wrote and extract the implications one takes away from it? Or are not you aware that to others your statements may seem ill-defined and not devoid of ambiguosity?
I write at length and with long phrases to make sure that, though they are laborious to read (and write), they are meant to leave no latitude to infer another meaning than what I intended.
I could break them up by editing to make each capsule of thought easier to ingest and digest, but at least it doesn't take a lot more time to get the pay that I receive for it.
There is logic involved, but it is direct and not ill-conditioned.
Mis-spelled maybe. though. Unintentionally.