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To: ebb tide

Actually, you were referring to what I believe. But, no matter. As for your current, quite un-Christian insult, I am simply quoting a very conservative priest with whom I had many conversations about the catechism at my conversion. Life is not all black and white. Good day.


33 posted on 08/28/2020 3:02:07 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: MrChips

So you were quoting a questionable priest, not the catechism, like you claimed to have done.


34 posted on 08/28/2020 3:27:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MrChips
Catechism of the Catholic Church:

2370: In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil: Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.

35 posted on 08/28/2020 4:00:37 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MrChips
Actually, you were referring to what I believe.

Ok, you admitted that's what you believe and that includes, "One might, for example, disagree with the Church on contraception..."

There's a word for "catholics" that disagree with the Church and it also applies to Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi.

36 posted on 08/28/2020 4:14:04 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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