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A Personal Question for a Son of Israel - Where is Your Atonement Before the ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS G-d?
IFB ^ | 9/18/18

Posted on 09/18/2018 7:11:24 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Great day to stop sinning against the Almighty by ceasing to worship Him in triplicate.


21 posted on 09/18/2018 10:32:02 AM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: impactplayer
I really do not know how non-believers find peace from the pains of sin

Basically they and indeed most of us don't care. People are screwed up, always were always will be. Metaphysical agonizing seems to be just plain nuts for a generally secular world , something out of the Middle Ages.

22 posted on 09/18/2018 11:52:26 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Alot do... : (

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor. 1:18


23 posted on 09/18/2018 1:45:33 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Amen. Praise Yeshua’s everlasting Atonement.
24 posted on 09/18/2018 4:33:33 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy UP!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; The Ignorant Fisherman
Why do you quote the "new testament" to someone who doesn't accept it? Have you ever heard of proving something first?

Have you tried to DISPROVE the resurrection of Jesus?

You must know (since you said you once believed in it) that the New Testament was written by the first Christ followers (called "Christians" in Antioch then all over). These people HAD seen the risen Jesus and they knew the prophecies about Him were fulfilled. If Jesus had not risen from the dead, then this movement would have died out almost immediately. There is a reason why souls are still coming to faith in Him. The God of the Old Testament (Moses and the Prophets and Psalms) still can be found when we seek Him and search for Him with all our hearts. Only by faith can we please Him.

25 posted on 09/18/2018 8:19:08 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I also enjoy the Harry Potter series. Most entertaining reading.


26 posted on 09/19/2018 4:53:38 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: cowboyusa

yes!!! His blood was shed for me!


27 posted on 09/19/2018 7:30:31 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Tell Judaism what their Messiah did on that day and that might help.

The Messiah of Israel was born on an appointed Torah day 40 days before the Day of Atonement.
He was presented to Israel in the temple as a 40 day babe on the Day of Atonement,another Torah appointment day.

The Messiah of Israel was baptized on the same Torah appointment day and then led into the wilderness for the exact same 40 days at His birth.
40 days where He fasted..
The Day of Atonement is the last of the 40 days.

That’s why Israel was called to fast and afflict themselves on the Day of Atonement.
It is the 40th of 40 days the Messiah of Israel was led to fast before He began His ministry.
He did it for 40.
They are called to fast and afflict for the last day, the 40th.

His ministry began on the Day of Atonement , lasted 3 1/2 years, and ended on Passover, where the Passover Lamb died for our sins, in accordance with the scriptures. Was buried and rose the third day from Passover, as First Fruits, in accordance with the scriptures.

The problem is He can’t be born 40 days before the Day of Atonement if people say He was born on December 25.
He can’t be circumcised on the weekly Sabbath if people say He was circumcised on January 1.

He can’t be presented in the temple on the Day of Atonement if people say He was presented on February 2.

He can’t be killed on Passover as the Lamb,in accordance with the scriptures, if people say He was killed on Good Friday
He can’t be raised the third day from Passover,in accordance with the scriptures, if He was raised on Easter Sunday.

Judaism may just be expecting a little more Torah from the Messiah.

They can have Torah made flesh but it won’t be comfortable for them. They accept inherited lies that blind them to Truth too.
But that Truth can lead to what we need. Repentance and restoration.

What a glorious day that will be when people understand why Israel was taught to do what they do.
It’s all because of Him. Every major event was called to be a set apart day in Torah. And it points to the Son, the Messiah of Israel.

Not sure too many in Judaism would like that lnstruction/lesson about Torah that became flesh. Might evoke jealousy.

Not sure too many in Christianity would like that instruction/lesson about Torah made flesh. Might evoke anger that the precious traditions of men are provable false with study of his Word and His Creation.

The whole world can know the Word ,that Judaism and Christianity reads,became flesh.

His Truth will March on,though, whether people will get eyes to see it or not.
We all will see it someday. And there won’t be the separation there is today.
Satan has done a job of dividing and enslaving people to inherited lies.

The Day of Atonement is an important day in the Messiah of Israel’s life.
What a blessing it will be when Jew and Gentile can understand that!

For His Glory!


28 posted on 09/19/2018 8:02:01 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: boatbums
Have you tried to DISPROVE the resurrection of Jesus?

Why do you not understand? I don't have to prove or disprove anything. The onus is on YOU to prove the claims of a new religion to take the place of the one G-d founded!

Do you not even realize that it doesn't matter whether he was resurrected or not? If the Torah does not provide for such a person starting a new religion, then he had no authority to start a new religion!

You must know (since you said you once believed in it) that the New Testament was written by the first Christ followers (called "Christians" in Antioch then all over). These people HAD seen the risen Jesus and they knew the prophecies about Him were fulfilled. If Jesus had not risen from the dead, then this movement would have died out almost immediately. There is a reason why souls are still coming to faith in Him. The God of the Old Testament (Moses and the Prophets and Psalms) still can be found when we seek Him and search for Him with all our hearts. Only by faith can we please Him.

If the Torah does not say "keep this law until someone is resurrected from the dead and then stop and start keeping the new one," then IT . . . DOESN'T . . . MATTER.

If someone came along today and worked a miracle and claimed he had the authority to replace chrstianity with something else, you'd wouldn't even consider his claim, because you believe chrstianity is the final religion. Don't you understand that Jews believe the same thing about the Torah?

I have been on this forum for almost twenty years. In all that time not one chrstian from any form of that religion has ever even attempted to prove chrstian claims. They all seem to believe that everyone is somehow "just supposed to know" that chrstianity is true.

I think I know one reason for why this is true (it has to do with the evangelical Protestant notion of "conversion") but I'm not going to take the time to do so now. Maybe later.

29 posted on 09/20/2018 7:25:28 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Conservatism" without G-d is just another form of Communism.)
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