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This kind of thing is why I am not a Christian.


5 posted on 06/18/2018 9:00:05 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: olepap
This kind of thing is why I am not a Christian.

I am sorry to hear this. I will pray for your soul to be opened to your Lord and Savior.
10 posted on 06/18/2018 9:06:39 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: olepap

Yeah, that’s the reason. Another one of God’s creations that turned out smarter than the Creator.


12 posted on 06/18/2018 9:10:45 AM PDT by robel
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The quote from the Catechism makes it clear that self-defense, even by an act of lethal force, is not forbidden by the Gospel of Christ.

But there's more to it than that. It's a closely-reasoned article, and it deserves a very careful read.

17 posted on 06/18/2018 9:20:18 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For peace within your gates, speak truth and judge with sound judgment." - Zechariah 8:16)
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To: olepap
"This kind of thing is why I am not a Christian."

Maybe you should read the complete article before making such an ignorant comment, Oh Righteous One.

23 posted on 06/18/2018 9:30:09 AM PDT by semaj (U\)
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To: olepap

no sir- IF you care to honestly reflect on why you aren’t a Christian, the real reason you aren’t a Christian is because You reject Christ. The Holy spirit has prompted you- as He does every living soul, to accept Christ, but so far you have hardened your heart against Him and ignore the promptings of the Holy Spirit. When we stand before God on judgement day, we are not going to have any excuses. God will require blunt honest reasons for rejection- and that will require those who reject Him to honestly declare that those who Reject Christ simply do not accept That Christ is God’s Son and died for our sins- They felt no need for a Savior Even though the Holy Spirit prompted us to do so our whole lives- Those who rejected Christ ignored Him.

Yo may or may not despise Christians and Christianity (Despise what they stand for- such as ‘turn the other cheek’ etc)- but that is not the reason you reject Christ- that is only the symptom of your rejection. The reason you reject Christ is that you have determined until now that you will not be subject to servant hood- That you will not allow Him to be your master and Lord-

There it is in a nutshell- IF we’re to be honest- Those that reject Christ do so for only one reason- they refuse to bow their knee in submission to the Lord Creator- but one day every knee will bow-


37 posted on 06/18/2018 10:10:30 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: olepap
This kind of thing is why I am not a Christian.

I don't get it, are you opposed to people defending themselves?

Or am I misunderstanding you?

40 posted on 06/18/2018 10:29:43 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: olepap
Instead of turning the page...

I disagree, I say: turn the page(s), all of them. Don't try understand Matt 5 by itself through reflection. Listen to the voice of the Good Shepherd, don't be a self-defense sheep.

John 10:27-28
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand

73 posted on 06/19/2018 2:17:41 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: olepap
This kind of thing is why I am not a Christian.

Interesting!


Just what kind of 'thing' would get a person to turn down Jesus' offer of salvation?

78 posted on 06/19/2018 4:28:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: olepap

What kind of thing?

My thinking on “just war” and self-defense firmed up when I became a husband and father. I could not see how it could be right for my child to say to me, “Save me from this bad man!” and for me to be intentionally helpless.


93 posted on 06/19/2018 8:08:15 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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