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Evangelists, Private Jets, Generosity, and Stewardship (How Do You Respond to "God Told Me..."?)
Christian Post ^ | 06/15/2018 | Michael Brown

Posted on 06/15/2018 9:20:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
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"If she doesn't bring my white wine in the next 5 seconds, I'll whack her with this Wall Street Journal."

21 posted on 06/15/2018 10:08:44 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t start the conversation with, “God told me....”.

Explain how a dire situation was resolved and then explain how you prayed for God’s will in the situation.

I usually find that the resolution correspond with prayers, but I don’t learn of the resolution until a day or so later.

My commentary is usually a, “but of course that’s just a coincidence, ...Thank You Lord!”


22 posted on 06/15/2018 10:15:44 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus traveled by foot most of the time. But also by boat. By donkey one time (at least).
Never recorded in the Bible that he traveled by chariot. Hmmmmm ..... chariot was possibly the fanciest, most high profile by which to travel over land at that time.
Oh well. Didn’t Jesus warn us about FALSE PROPHETS?


23 posted on 06/15/2018 10:16:45 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: G Larry

RE: “but of course that’s just a coincidence, ...Thank You Lord!”

But then again, nothing is a coincidence in God’s sovereign hands. Right?


24 posted on 06/15/2018 10:17:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Reverend :god told me i need a jet to circumnavigate the world to help do good everywhere !

Flock: Then you shall have a jet to do god’s work !

Non Believers Jealousy : How can you waste all that money on a jet for something that don’t exist but only in your mind give the money to me i need a new car and gas to run it !

God : Eze 35:11

Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee.


25 posted on 06/15/2018 10:18:11 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("Vi veri vniversum vivus vici" "By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe)
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To: buffaloguy

RE: Jesse has other jets, maybe 3 or 4. Is he going to sell them?

It depends on what God “told him”.... Ha ha.


26 posted on 06/15/2018 10:19:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Jesse Duplantis claims that God told him to buy a $54 million jet for his ministry

is he a lying con artist?
is he hallucinating?

27 posted on 06/15/2018 10:22:23 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s rather my point.

I was going to use a sarcasm tag, but the Thanks, of course, is NOT.


28 posted on 06/15/2018 11:05:34 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: SeekAndFind
Here's my ministry. I don't need a new jet, just some baseballs, ball gloves, and a few soccer balls.
Soccer, spreading the Gospel with the devils game:).
www.eternalpastime.org.
29 posted on 06/15/2018 11:43:29 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: SeekAndFind

Duplantis is local-and a nut. He’s a shyster who zoomed in on the uneducated, desperate and gullible. He lives in a massive plantation house-now he needs a jet! If he’s hearing someone talking to him(ruling out clinical psychosis) it ISN’T Jesus. Suckers abound who will defend him, he depends on that. Neverending supply-that’s how carefully choreographed ‘preachers’ like him prosper.


30 posted on 06/15/2018 11:50:47 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Oral Roberts said that God was going to kill him if he didn’t raise $8 million for his university.

In front of ORU in Tulsa is a giant statue of hands folded in prayer. The story goes that when they were 1st built the hands wouldn’t stay closed, they kept falling open.

None of the fixes worked. Finally, a worker dropped a dollar between the hands, they clamped shut and have stayed that way ever since.


31 posted on 06/15/2018 11:51:20 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: fungoking

Our church started an organization to do sports at the local Junior High to get kids off the street, teach manners and rules, friendship, etc. One coach was saying how hardly any of his boys (Jr. High!) knew how to shake hands! (They shake hands at the end of the games with the other teams.)

It started out just soccer, now they do all sorts of sports. It is now this big huge separate organization. Something like 15 schools are in the program now, and more are waiting to join (all volunteers running it). It has morphed into mentoring programs, helping the families, etc.

They can’t “preach” of course as they are public schools, but everyone knows that it is Christians doing it out of their love for Christ and the kids. Pretty amazing results too. Going from stuff like 100+ suspensions in a year to 8, 50% passing rates to 90%, etc.

All from a game of soccer!


32 posted on 06/15/2018 11:58:24 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: SeekAndFind
My question till today is this -— DID HE RIGHTLY UNDERSTAND AND APPLY THIS PASSAGE?

Of course not ... but it seems like the Lord blessed his ministry anyway ... as He would have if he went to the other place.

33 posted on 06/15/2018 12:03:08 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: richardtavor

Our Pastor was just telling a story last Sunday.

He was working out at the gym on the bike, but his mind was thinking of other things. He didn’t go into details, but he felt down, feeling like a failure, wondering if he was doing things right, etc.

Some stranger walked up to him and said “You’re probably going to think I’m crazy, but God told me to tell you that you are a good man, you’re on the right track, and that He loves you.”

Later he said something like “So if God gives you a little nudge, go and do it. Yeah - you might look foolish, but we all look pretty foolish sometimes anyways!”

oetc


34 posted on 06/15/2018 12:05:01 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: SeekAndFind

If God told you to do it, it would be in agreement with Scripture.


35 posted on 06/15/2018 12:06:57 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: cyclotic

“..or with a less luxurious aircraft.”

There is a missionary group in Papua New Guinea. They have a couple of ultralight airplane type things (I think they hang below a para-glider?) to travel to the remote villages.


36 posted on 06/15/2018 12:09:38 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: 21twelve

That’s cool.

I used to know a guy who was a missionary in Papua New Guinea. He was the first white man the tribe had ever seen and only the second person from civilization.

I asked if the tribe had an Ark legend. Like all cultures, they did.


37 posted on 06/15/2018 12:34:15 PM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: SeekAndFind

I totally understand your example. However, I think it is an excellent way to discern what God’s will is for you. Do not jump to immediate impressions. Weigh everything (if you have the time) and God will lead you to the right choice. It doesn’t mean that you will make the right choice according to your own assessment, because God has a way of using every choice to end up where he wants you. To me, the two principles is to search with your mind first, and then your heart. You do that by asking for God’s help to direct your choice. He will, but he will usually let you make sure before you choose, good or bad. Some people think that God “tests your faith”. If you read Job totally, and understand it (I suggest Jewish Commentaries on Iyov (Job), you will know what to do. God did not “test” Job - he was the most righteous person on earth. In fact, many believe that he actually was a gentile. However, God did not test his faith, he “stretched it” and made it stronger. Just like a weight lifter adds weight to the barbells, so God wants to show you how to make good choices. Whatever choices you make, good or bad, He still loves you more than you will ever know. He is constantly speaking to all of us through his word, but unfortunately most of us have never learned how to hear his voice. The last person you want to trust is an ignoramus that really does not understand Torah at all, but understands how to “give people what they want” for the price of a jet (Crefo Dollar, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, etc.) God uses them too, but it can be painful for those who do not question everything. As said advised us “Be like the Bereans”....Acts 17:10-12.


38 posted on 06/15/2018 2:35:37 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: SeekAndFind

I tend to fall into this authors 2nd “unhealthy” category, most times.
I do however, after some critical thoughts, tend to withdraw most of those reactions.
That being said, buying a plane like that, for the purposes proposed; is simply preposterous.


39 posted on 06/15/2018 2:49:36 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I totally understand your example. However, I think it is an excellent way to discern what God’s will is for you. Do not jump to immediate impressions. Weigh everything (if you have the time) and God will lead you to the right choice. It doesn’t mean that you will make the right choice according to your own assessment, because God has a way of using every choice to end up where he wants you. To me, the two principles is to search with your mind first, and then your heart. You do that by asking for God’s help to direct your choice. He will, but he will usually let you make sure before you choose, good or bad. Some people think that God “tests your faith”. If you read Job totally, and understand it (I suggest Jewish Commentaries on Iyov (Job), you will know what to do. God did not “test” Job - he was the most righteous person on earth. In fact, many believe that he actually was a gentile. However, God did not test his faith, he “stretched it” and made it stronger. Just like a weight lifter adds weight to the barbells, so God wants to show you how to make good choices. Whatever choices you make, good or bad, He still loves you more than you will ever know. He is constantly speaking to all of us through his word, but unfortunately most of us have never learned how to hear his voice. The last person you want to trust is an ignoramus that really does not understand Torah at all, but understands how to “give people what they want” for the price of a jet (Crefo Dollar, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, etc.) God uses them too, but it can be painful for those who do not question everything. As said advised us “Be like the Bereans”....Acts 17:10-12.


40 posted on 06/15/2018 3:40:14 PM PDT by richardtavor
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