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United Methodists Remove ‘Father’ from Apostle’s Creed to Be More Gender Inclusive to God
Pulpit and Pen ^ | JUNE 11, 2018

Posted on 06/12/2018 11:40:41 AM PDT by Gamecock

The Minnesota Conference of the United Methodist Church has removed the term, ‘Father,’ from the Apostle’s Creed in an attempt to be more gender inclusive to God.

The ancient creed of the Christian Church reads:

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to the dead.

However, United Methodists in the Minnesota Conference decided that referring to God as “Father” wasn’t inclusive enough for the 21st century United Methodist Church. At the conference, held May 30 through June 1, conference organizers omitted reference to God the Father. Instead, they changed the phrase “God the Father Almighty” to “God the Creator Almighty.” The creed passed out to attendees also removed the phrase, “Jesus Christ, His only Son” to “Jesus Christ, God’s only Son.”

One attendee, Keith Mcilwain, posted a screenshot of their newly revised creed via social media:

McIlwain is currently the pastor of Slippery Rock United Methodist Church in Pennsylvania. Mcilwain said, “No United Methodist individual or body has the authority to edit those creeds which were formulated by the early Church and have helped define orthodox Christianity for the better part of 2000 years.”

The United Methodist Church has repeatedly become more egalitarian in the early twenty-first and latter twentieth century, beginning with the ordaining of female clergy with full ordination rights in 1956. The roots of the egalitarian movement among Methodists began, however, with the 18th century female preacher, Mary Bosanquet Fletcher, convincing John Wesley that some women should be given limited preaching abilities. In most recent days, the United Methodist Church has been drained of male clergy, with more than 10,300 female clergy members nationwide.

A United Methodist Church website provides a blog explaining the concept behind removing the “Father” understanding of God (taught by Jesus and the rest of Scripture). In the following quotiation, their use of the term, “God language,” means language used by people to refer to God:

Leaders need to establish the ground rules: Everybody’s God language is appropriate. People’s God language signifies a relationship that you can’t interfere with. You can raise questions and offer additional perspectives, but you can’t dictate. You can’t prohibit anybody from using any language about God. Whether they want to call God “Jehovah” or “Big Dog,” you can’t judge the validity of how that name connects them with God. People just need to get used to that.

Pastors and other leaders should give attention to teaching people what the church’s traditional images mean and what they don’t mean. For instance, the “fatherhood” of God is about relationship, not biology. Our people won’t know how to reflect theologically about these things — instead of just reacting emotionally — unless we give them the tools.

Pastors and other worship leaders should expose people to a variety of images of God, both familiar and new, both comforting and provocative. People should regularly hear God referred to in public worship with images that are male, female, and gender neutral. In a worship service the choir may sing an anthem with thickly sexist, male-dominated language, while the prayers are full of feminine imagery. People can sing their own words, with their personal substitutions, if they wish. People should be encouraged to take responsibility for their own faith.

In the meantime, Jesus taught us to pray, “Our Father, who art in Heaven…”


TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: apostasy; apostlescreed; godthefather; heresy; newspeak; religiousleft; umc; unitedmethodists
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To: Gamecock

“McIlwain is currently the pastor of Slippery Slope United Methodist Church”

FTFY.


21 posted on 06/12/2018 11:55:32 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Gamecock

The UMC just might disintegrate at the conference next summer.


22 posted on 06/12/2018 11:57:46 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: DannyTN; xzins; Gamecock
"Everybody’s God language is appropriate...."

I was going to say, "OK, I believe in God the poodle?"

"Whether they want to call God 'Jehovah' or 'Big Dog,' you can’t judge the validity of how that name connects them with God."

But yikes, they went there.

Reality overtakes parody. Self-parody overtakes satire. Why all the comedians are out of work.

23 posted on 06/12/2018 11:57:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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To: Gamecock
How retarded can these apostates be?

It's pretty obvious that Jesus refers to his daddy as Father. Are they saying that they know more than Jesus?
 

24 posted on 06/12/2018 11:58:04 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: Dr. Sivana
The Parent, the Child, and the Holy She-it.

Now I have to apologize to God and wash out my mind.

25 posted on 06/12/2018 11:59:18 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

LOL


26 posted on 06/12/2018 11:59:52 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: ClearCase_guy

There’s a lot o’ that going around these days.


27 posted on 06/12/2018 12:00:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Are they saying that they know more than Jesus?

Yes.

That's exactly what they're saying.

28 posted on 06/12/2018 12:00:33 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Gamecock

One more reason to abandon the Methodist “Church”, where they can’t find any Biblical admonishments to stop abortions and homosexuality.

To remove the male reference to our Father in Heaven is disgusting and worthy of all their parishioners’ contempt.


29 posted on 06/12/2018 12:00:47 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: SkyDancer
Actually, God "the Father" alone is not exactamundo God "the Creator."

The Creation was Created by God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. It was created by the Trinity.

30 posted on 06/12/2018 12:02:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men.


31 posted on 06/12/2018 12:05:49 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: AppyPappy; armydawg505; bigbob; Bryanw92; CaptainMorgantown; chajin; clee1; EandH Dad; ...

Ping!


32 posted on 06/12/2018 12:06:12 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Trump is a real estate genius because he lives rent-free in so many heads.)
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To: Gamecock

Does this mean that they do not consider Jesus Christ (God) to be inclusive enough for them? (Think how many times He referred to the FATHER.....and to doing the will of the Father.)

Ohhhh wow....how the idiocy expands....


33 posted on 06/12/2018 12:17:47 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Trillian

Yep!


34 posted on 06/12/2018 12:18:05 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Gamecock

Aside from being my own Pope, I have my own Council of Trent edict for these types: Anathema!


35 posted on 06/12/2018 12:18:28 PM PDT by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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To: Albion Wilde

Cue the face-palm. Lord, these Yankee Methodists are idiots!


36 posted on 06/12/2018 12:23:16 PM PDT by jagusafr
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To: NorthMountain
Wonderful.

Beautiful.

Precisely.

37 posted on 06/12/2018 12:25:01 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.)
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To: Gamecock

If God self-identifies as a man, I think we should embrace His decision to live out that lifestyle.


38 posted on 06/12/2018 12:27:39 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: kosciusko51; Gamecock
Just another example when you stray from the scriptures to support your own traditions.

Can it be a tradition if they just made it up?

Maybe 'transient preference' would be a better way to put it. Soon enough they will find a word for God that they like better.

39 posted on 06/12/2018 12:28:13 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: jagusafr

The church where I am a member (UMC) offered 3 books for summer reading; a book on White Privilege, a book supporting gun control and a book supporting Global Warming.

The church we attend offered a book on witnessing to non-believers/Muslims.


40 posted on 06/12/2018 12:30:29 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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