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Why Bill Johnson (Bethel) Believes The Bible Is Not Enough
Spirit of Error: A Modern Response To The Modern Prophets & Apostles Movement ^ | January 25, 2018 | Holly Pivec

Posted on 04/23/2018 9:24:19 PM PDT by Sontagged

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Personally, I stand with Ernie Gruen's "Abberent Practices" statement as a charismatic who believes the Bible is enough and cannot be added to. This NAR is an apostate movement, who use the same arguments Mormons do by adding to the Word of God.

I also pray Sarah Palin has already been delivered out of this movement.

1 posted on 04/23/2018 9:24:19 PM PDT by Sontagged
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To: Elsie; metmom

More on the NAR


2 posted on 04/23/2018 9:25:52 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: pastorbillrandles

NAR ping. I appreciate Holly Pivec v much.


3 posted on 04/23/2018 9:26:59 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

Sorry, but though I’ve actually and without planning or even wanting to started speaking saying “Thus says the Lord” (just the once) I cannot go with the idea that Scripture is insufficient.

Scripture can be opened and inspected by anyone. Experiences and latter day revelations that are not attested to with external evidences and proofs cannot be. When it says the Gospel, the faith, has been given once for all time it means it.


4 posted on 04/23/2018 9:38:53 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

Exactly.


5 posted on 04/23/2018 9:40:52 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

Ps 127:1

King James Bible
A Song of degrees for Solomon. Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it:....


6 posted on 04/23/2018 9:41:24 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Thank you...


7 posted on 04/23/2018 9:42:23 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

“No one in their right mind would claim to understand all that is contained in the Bible for us today.”

Which part of that sentence do you disagree with? Since you specifically attacked a brother in the Lord, could you please document which affirmative statements that have been made saying the Bible is insufficient and needs to be replaced or appended.

That is a lot different from saying we need to understand, grasp, and walk in God’s revelation more fully.


8 posted on 04/23/2018 9:51:46 PM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: Sontagged

There is not enough facepalm left in my facepalm vault to be enough facepalm for these twits.


9 posted on 04/23/2018 9:52:12 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: srweaver

I did not write this article, you do know that, correct?

Where did I “attack” one of my brothers in the Lord by railing false accusation against their character, anyway?

This NAR cult is a theological problem and people get caught up in it by virtue of cute sayings like “Everything isn’t written down in the Bible!” and “NO one can say they understand all of the Bible!”

There are a lot more idiotic NAR statements like that, believe me.

Oh, my favorite one is, that “they must shut off their minds during a sermon and allow their spirit to absorb things”...

It’s a cunning counterfeit of Hell.


10 posted on 04/23/2018 10:04:34 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

Meet the new gnostics.
Same as the old gnostics.


11 posted on 04/23/2018 10:08:42 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Sontagged

Holy Laughter, Holy Rolling, Glory Clouds, Gems from Heaven etc. Just google Kenneth Hagin barking for a small example of the evil he brought on the Church.


12 posted on 04/23/2018 10:22:54 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: Luircin

LOL


13 posted on 04/23/2018 10:48:04 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: LukeL

Hagin I’m sure, is “tokin’ the Holy Ghost” along with these apostates.


14 posted on 04/23/2018 10:51:19 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

Yes, I know you didn’t write the article...you are just disseminating it.

So are YOU saying Bill Johnson is not a Christian and doing demonic work?

Please clarify, as YOU are accusing “someone” of “something” and I would like to know if it is an individual or an organization, or anyone who loosely associates with one another around particular theological expressions.

To me, a “cunning counterfeit of hell” is a pretty strong indictment and should be specific in nature — not loosely aimed in a general direction.


15 posted on 04/23/2018 10:52:14 PM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: srweaver

Yes, I will say that Bill Johnson is manifesting a familiar spirit and demonstrating doctrines of demons and encouraging false prophecy...

all as the Lord told us to beware, in the same way He tells us to beware false prophets who “teach the so-called deep things of Satan”... such as Bill Johnson.

How do I know this? Because Johnson’s teachings and practices “go beyond what is written”.

Please, don’t give me that “touch not my anointed” line. I’m anointed for His good works, too.

We are to be Bereans and “test the spirits” regarding Bethel and Bill Johnson.

Why are you defending Bill Johnson, btw?


16 posted on 04/23/2018 11:00:24 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

Why do I get the sense that Mr. Bill Johnson already has an extra-scriptural “revelation” in mind?

If you’re involved in this church in any way, always test what he preaches and teaches against scripture. If what he says in that capacity is unscriptural, then it is not of God.

Simple as that.


17 posted on 04/23/2018 11:04:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I agree. The spirit behind this thing really twists the Word in surprising ways.


18 posted on 04/23/2018 11:08:00 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Oh, they don’t tell you right away, but these guys believe they are Apostles on par with the 12 Apostles, and that they have to take dominion over the earth for the Second Coming to occur. (Yes, it’s all about their works that will bring Jesus back.)

Because these NAR people like Bill Johnson believe they are Apostles on par with the 12, this is how they assert that their prophecies or revelations are also on par with the Bible.


19 posted on 04/23/2018 11:11:09 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: LukeL
Holy Laughter, Holy Rolling, Glory Clouds, Gems from Heaven etc. Just google Kenneth Hagin barking for a small example of the evil he brought on the Church.

I have seen some of these videos. Looks like the kundalini spirit. I don’t buy it.

20 posted on 04/23/2018 11:15:58 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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