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OSV.com ^ | 03-14-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/21/2018 9:30:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: infool7
that I (speaking as a 55 year old cradle Catholic)

You can see only that which you've seen since birth.

And of course, you turned down the challenge to approach God's Word to see what it says, with the willingness to follow it unreservedly - even when you learn it contradicts what you were raised to believe.

421 posted on 04/23/2018 7:35:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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To the lost like you, all of those anointed by Yehova are “false teachers.”

Reality speaks for itself. the spiritual revelations of our age go only to those that you would call “false teachers.”

Yehova is working away from your coven.
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422 posted on 04/23/2018 7:41:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Ha, you think me still a child and that my parents programmed me like a robot.

Why... bless your heart, as they say.

well then if like a child I must become to enter into the gates of heaven as our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus says, then perhaps I already am.

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423 posted on 04/23/2018 7:55:20 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: editor-surveyor

Es, got nothing for you.

I disagree with almost all you have “learned” from Rood.

Since you are not currently seeking truth, you’re on your own.

He’s.


424 posted on 04/23/2018 7:56:57 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: infool7

Not what I said.

My point was you’ve accepted what you were fed and do not seek truth.

Your call bro.


425 posted on 04/23/2018 7:58:05 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: editor-surveyor

Ephesians Chapter 2. Romans chapter 3. John chapter 3.

Try actually reading the Bible instead of Rooding the Bible.


426 posted on 04/23/2018 8:00:58 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
No, I get it loud and clear.

My eyes are open 360° to the Truth.

How about you pull off your blinders and take a look around.

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427 posted on 04/23/2018 8:06:30 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

“My eyes are open 360° to the Truth.”

1. You have already written that you would not seek truth knowing the consequences might separate you from Rome.

2. It is clear you did not know Rome requires works for you to get to heaven.

3. You’ve admitted that you only listen to the word as expanded by church fathers and “scholars” of Rome.

4. You have written that you were a cradle Catholic and have never known anything else.

Your refusal to seek truth, regardless on consequences, indicates you are not open to truth.

Your decision. I guess the fear of learning your experience was based on a falsehood can be scary. It is better to know now and go to heaven, than to feel secure in a lie.

Best.


428 posted on 04/23/2018 8:27:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: editor-surveyor
Satan has so beguiled you that you do not comprehend from the passage you draw! What did Paul say about those falling back on dates and feast days and the works under law living? He said he feared for them!

Galatians 2:14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?

15 “We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles 16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

17 “But if, in seeking to be justified in Christ, we Jews find ourselves also among the sinners, doesn’t that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, then I really would be a lawbreaker.

19“For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Galatians 3:23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

Galatians 4:10 You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! 11 I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.

As for your fidelity to the false teacher, Michael Rood: Gal 4:17 Those people are zealous to win you over, but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us, so that you may have zeal for them.

429 posted on 04/23/2018 8:52:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: boatbums

The point, at least for me is that we be as one, as our Dear Lord and Savior prayed we would be as He and the Father are one, unified against our one true enemy, the Devil, FIRST and bickering siblings SECOND if at all.

To your beautiful and comforting passage from John. Does our gentle Lord force us to open the door upon which He knocks? And if we are free to open that door or leave it closed, are we not ourselves also free to shut it closed on Him again.

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430 posted on 04/23/2018 9:05:12 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Apparently, I stand a condemned man in the court of a ampu and his six five jurors.

The sentence... HELL.

As a friend once told me "good thing you're not in charge"

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431 posted on 04/23/2018 9:16:55 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

Such a double mind! In the post before you feign comity, then smarm up the thread with the same arrogant insult you started your series of posts with. How very telling!


432 posted on 04/23/2018 9:28:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: boatbums; metmom; knarf; aMorePerfectUnion
When an RC “apologist” tosses out the 30k or 40k or 50k denominations ploy to boost their argument, I know I can stop reading anything else they have to say because it will be a waste of time!

Amen BB. All I can say, and I know there are others too, is that I, and I am sure the rest of you addressees as well, are probably thrilled to death, to have been freed from the bondage of the false doctrines of the Catholic Church, and not one of us will EVER swim the Tiber, not now, not ever. 😁🤣👍😇

433 posted on 04/23/2018 10:37:08 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: MHGinTN

Telling indeed, Christ Jesus both healed the sick and drove out demons and money changers. Do you condemn our Lord for being of double mind as well.

If the rough and tumble nature of the religion forum is too much for you, perhaps you should stick to caucus threads where you are less likely to be offended.

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434 posted on 04/24/2018 5:10:07 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

“Apparently, I stand a condemned man in the court of a ampu and his six five jurors.”

Yes, if you don’t entrust yourself to Him alone, you will join the many in hell for eternity.

But I’ve not encouraged you to listen to me or any man.

I’ve encouraged you to seek the truth of God in the Word of God.

You refused.

Instead, you could know with certainty *today* that you have salvation and will spend eternity in the presence of God.

You refused.

I will never understand the choice not to know what God declares and be saved from the wrath to come.

When you want to begin the second leg of your spiritual journey, I am always as close as a private mail or a phone call. I would gladly help you as much be helped others.

I wish you every eternal blessing.


435 posted on 04/24/2018 6:45:51 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I refuse?

You refuse to acknowledge even the slightest hint of common ground with Christians.

God the Father Creator... ampu?
One Lord Christ Jesus... ampu?
that came down from heaven... ampu?
by The Holy Spirit incarnate and became man... ampu?
Christ Jesus suffered and died... ampu?
rose again on the third day... ampu?
One Baptism... ampu?
The Holy Trinity?

Anything ANYTHING...

Nope...

Just dead air, crickets, static from ampu.

You may not have noticed but your tiny minority has actually gotten smaller.

Your own particular personal interpretation is shared by only those that desire to make up their own commandments and receive no censure.

You claim to seek the Truth while you wander farther and father from it.

You only mislead the poor souls that you beckon to ratify your made up religion of ampu

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436 posted on 04/24/2018 8:02:02 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

I will let someone else explain double-minded to you. Your red herring is odoriferous at best.


437 posted on 04/24/2018 8:25:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: infool7
I refuse?

Yes, you did upthread.

You refuse to acknowledge even the slightest hint of common ground with Christians.

Catholicism has some things in common with Christians.

It will not teach you how to have salvation. I've tried to encourage you to seek truth in order to be saved from the wrath to come, regardless of whether you remain Roman or not.

You may not have noticed but your tiny minority has actually gotten smaller.

God could care less about how many people here participate in a thread.

I suspect it is evident to all that this is very rocky ground and not fertile.

Do you feel reassured by numbers instead of truth???

If I am the only one telling you the truth of the Word, I will speak His truth.

Your own particular personal interpretation is shared by only those that desire to make up their own commandments and receive no censure.

What I've written to you is shared by hundreds of millions who were courageous enough to read His Word and entrust themselves to Him.

You refused to read His Word without preconditions. You should consider having a time of reflection to ask what scares you about going to God's Word and seeking truth without "doctors, scholars, etc." whispering in your ear to tell you what to believe.

What do you have to gain? Heaven.

What do you have to lose? Damnation.

Nice trade.

You only mislead the poor souls that you beckon to ratify your made up religion of ampu

I am not the Author of Scripture. That is the Holy Spirit. He does not mislead through His Word.

I get nothing out of sharing truth with you, except to fulfill the commands of God.

If you read Scripture, it is Rome that has made up many things, including falsifying the basis of savation, as I already documented upthread. You were not even aware that Rome's official position is to require works in addition to faith.

"Let him who has ears, hear."


438 posted on 04/24/2018 8:25:45 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Catholicism has some things in common with Christians.

Great! We're making some headway.

Care to elaborate on what those "things" you mentioned are?

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439 posted on 04/24/2018 8:31:28 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7
Care to elaborate on what those "things" you mentioned are?

No, it is pointless.

If you don't get to salvation, it is all proforma gibberish.

And you refused to even consider what will get you into heaven.

Your call.

Perhaps in the future you will be open and as I mentioned earlier, you can pm me.

440 posted on 04/24/2018 8:33:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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