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To: Sontagged

One preacher I heard said that the better question wasn’t whether the gifts are for today or not, and in spite of his otherwise VERY conservative theological stand, he thinks they are, but the better question would be if what is practiced by the Pentecostal church today as the gift of tongues is the same gift as it was practiced in the NT, and at that point, he says not.

I would have to agree with him. I don’t see that the gifts listed in 1 Corinthians 12 have ever been rescinded but I also do not see them being practiced as Paul instructed and I don’t think that what they are listed as is the same as how they are begin defined these days.


91 posted on 04/18/2018 12:09:51 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom
I agree, as you know I have had years of freaking out over the false teachings/false prophecies of the NAR and associated cults.

Though I have seen personally the miracle of interpretation of tongues, once by a Preacher whom John McArthur respected (or said he did) and once by an absolute heathen who knew five languages, but knew she was being prayed for by this person in a prayer to Jesus, but then stopped understanding what was being prayed in tongues over her once she realized she had absolutely no idea what language it was being spoken.

Tongues is not the test of being truly Spirit filled or not, anyway, despite what some charismatics preach: some speak in tongues, some don't.

Yet, we have to ask, are we truly under a different dispensation or anointing than John the Baptist's disciples who spoke in tongues and prophesied once they received the "baptism of the Holy Spirit"?

Are we under a different anointing or are we in some different dispensation than Peter in the upper room with Mary and the others, when the Spirit fell?

If so, then where are the instructions for this "gift-less" Church?

The functionality and workings of the Holy Spirit in the life of a Christian is a given throughout the entire New Testament.

Which is part of the reason whey Jesus tell us:

"For truly I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it."

96 posted on 04/18/2018 1:04:55 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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