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So Many Charismatic Casualties (False Prophecies, Promised Healings That Never Came, etc.)
Christian Post ^ | 04/16/2018 | Michael Brown

Posted on 04/17/2018 8:56:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
They will pick up snakes with their hands...


I once knew a snake that was SO poor...

How poor was he??

He was so poor that he didn't have a pit to hiss in.

281 posted on 04/20/2018 12:43:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1
...without some kind of a marginal notation that the printer/publisher has done this without the author's permission.

Oh; I see more clearly now.

Help the author out; since he couldn't accurately convey what the Holy Spirit was wanting him to record.

Got it.

282 posted on 04/20/2018 12:47:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1
Oldest may mean the text was so unreliable that it was just left on the shelf,

HMMMmmm...

How unreliable was it?


283 posted on 04/20/2018 12:49:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

Shaking off the dust now.


284 posted on 04/20/2018 12:49:54 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: MHGinTN

Bored with trying to express the immensity and glory of the miracle of tongues that fell that day at Pentecost, in a reversal of what the Lord did at the Tower of Babel.

The Gifts are for today and the glory of Pentecost cannot be squelched because of your nitpicking.

God bless.


285 posted on 04/20/2018 12:54:34 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Elsie
In my considered estimate, quite; making the modern versions equally unreliable. But that's just mine, and I'm a Life Member of the Dean Burgon Society.
286 posted on 04/20/2018 1:22:37 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: MHGinTN

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The truth is in my posts and the adversary’s lies are in yours.

Misusing a short clip of the word is deliberate deception.

The entire book of The Acts is about how to live by the covenant. That includes the Mikvah which is mistranslated baptise in english versions.

The Mikvah is far more than a dip in a tub.

Its a total change in your life path due to the change in your heart when the covenant in written on it by Yehova.
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287 posted on 04/20/2018 1:23:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Sontagged

Magic dust?


288 posted on 04/20/2018 1:23:28 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Elsie

He coveyed it hust fine in the Greek. He was not very good with the English, so needed a translator for those blue-nosed Britons. Didn’t speak in the tongue of the Engs.


289 posted on 04/20/2018 1:26:52 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: metmom

Anyway, getting back to the raison d’être for this thread...

When I attended a NAR charismatic church over a decade ago, a friend of mine stayed behind to get prayer by some of the women who (I’d just begun to realize) were Revelation’s Jezebels (those who call themselves prophetesses, etc., but will not repent of teaching the so called deep things of Satan etc.)

He called me up later that day.

He said he was suddenly having problems speaking and hearing, like he couldn’t talk.

It confused me because he was clearly talking to me on his phone, and he could hear me, but he said it was like he couldn’t hear well and his speech was slightly impaired.

In those days, on Sundays after church, if I didn’t go out I would invariably have to lie down and take a nap. But these were not normal naps. (It would happen after the mid week meeting too, where some of us would get supernaturally sleepy.) So my friend calls and tells me this weird thing about not being able to hear or speak. And I was supernaturally drowsy after that church service. I prayed with him for a moment on the phone and told him I’d call him when he got home. Then I fell into one of those drop dead naps.

In the nap I had a dream. In the dream the Spirit spoke to me and said “****** has received a “deaf and dumb” spirit after being prayed for by the women”

I woke up and called him and told him what I heard. We prayed together against this thing, and it left. But the Lord showed us the evil counterfeits at work that day.

One thing I have learned about these NAR infected churches, the pull of their (false) personal prophecy over people is so strong, that even though a person knows the prophecies are lies, it is difficult to sever ties with people you’ve known forever. The only way to really get out is to understand that these are supernatural counterfeits and familiar spirits at work. If you don’t understand this and you don’t have a discernment of spirits about what is going on, it is almost impossible to be set free.

Another thing I’ve noted is that this “Jezebelic spirit” is sent to destroy faith. It is a mocking, subtle spitting demon, hiding within these NAR churches. You cannot let it prophesy over you, or submit to it, it takes evil pleasure in watching you grovel and submit to its counterfeit authority.

And the manner in which it twists the Word to convince you it is of God! It is only by grace and favor of the Lord that I was able to see it and try to “snatch some from the fire” of the NAR along with me. GBU MM

P.S. Just remembered another friend from that same church had a similar “hearing” problem that nearly cost her her job. Later.


290 posted on 04/20/2018 1:27:19 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suppose that is a rhetorical question?


291 posted on 04/20/2018 1:28:32 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Sontagged; MHGinTN

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>> “Bored with trying to express the immensity and glory of the miracle of tongues that fell that day at Pentecost, in a reversal of what the Lord did at the Tower of Babel.” <<

That reversal is coming soon, but it has not yet happened.

The Shavuot with the disciples and the assembled pilgrims on the temple mount was a spirit driven special event, not the return of universal Hebrew to the world.
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292 posted on 04/20/2018 1:28:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MHGinTN; Sontagged
Excellent viewpoint.

From a little distance, such a conglomeration of various dialects being uttered passionately and simultaneously, with hands raised to the heavens (??) it must have sounded like a couple of dozen of hysterical drunks. Eh?

293 posted on 04/20/2018 1:36:20 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Sontagged

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AMEN!

Spiritual warfare is real, and it works both ways for sure.

I had that same drowsy effect once at a Henry Wright seminar once, and recognized immediately what it was and prayed and got immediate relief.

The adversary’s agents are always there when true men of God are teaching too.
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294 posted on 04/20/2018 1:38:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: mdmathis6; MHGinTN

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Tongues are for the giving of the word of God, not for personal agrandisement.

If the word is not being given, then it is demonic or theater.
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295 posted on 04/20/2018 1:43:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; metmom

Discernment of these evil spirits in NAR churches is crucial.

The most astounding thing is to understand the supernatural cunning and reality of how Satan is at work in the NAR, and how much power we have against him if we will but use the Sword of the Spirit, just as Jesus modeled “Spiritual Warfare” for us in the forty days in the desert


296 posted on 04/20/2018 1:48:54 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Elsie

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Ever notice how “un reliable” something you don’t want to hear can be?

Eusebius took lots of old unreliable MS and made them reliable for Constantine.
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297 posted on 04/20/2018 1:49:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MHGinTN; Sontagged; Elsie; SeekAndFind
"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, I am but as a sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal"

Hey, M, looking back all through the OT and the NT, did you ever hear of an angel speak to a human in a tongue not understood by both? Well, if that's so, any "tongue" sound that is not a language but just as someone speaking without any agape love in his/her heart, wouldn't you say?

But then, I have no degree in babbelology, so what can I say?

298 posted on 04/20/2018 1:56:57 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN; metmom
Mark, catch this rattler and see if he be holy!!!!!

Ha, not a chance. 😁 I have heard of holy rollers before, but never Holy rattlers. I know Paul survived the snake bite, but I wonder who drank the poison? 🤣 I have seen those people on TV, dancing around the room with a bunch of snakes, making fools out of themselves. To me, it almost looks like the kundalini spirit.

299 posted on 04/20/2018 1:57:13 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: MHGinTN
yet each man heard the one dialect he understood out of all the noise of so many dialects being spoken simultaneously by those believers.

I wonder if anyone heard in Tagalog, or Cebuano? 😁

300 posted on 04/20/2018 2:02:03 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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