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To: editor-surveyor; All

Hey...who would I believe and understand with common sense language?....some modern day Judaizer who continually insults other Freepers with his tag line or an angel saying...”and on the third day rise again”. And from THE BIBLE containing the expressed Torah of God, no less!

I mean call me confused if you must get your holy jollies off doing so...but I just used a direct quotation from Luke 24 and you call me confused?

The thing is I have no problem with a literal 3 days and 3 nights death to resurrection(based on Christ’s citation of Jonah’s experience) but a reading thru of the actual events (and considering what other scholars way smarter than both of us have to say about how the Hebrews/Jews reckoned time) suggests that Christ may have indeed come back sometime on the third day/night and not after.

The Bible record speaks of the priests wanting the bodies off the crosses and of Joseph of Aramathea and others asking for the body of Christ so that it could be entombed before the Sabbath started.The Sabbath starts Friday at Sundown and ends Saturday at Sundown. So do you start the three days going from night to night...or do you start from day to day....as in the early hours of Friday AM when according Luke 24...”He must be delivered into the hands of sinful men,to be crucified and then to rise again ON THE THIRD DAY as he said!” Going from Early Friday morning to sometime in the wee hours of Monday morning(to fit the full three days) fits better with your opinion on the matter (and I have no problems with that)as long as one includes the part about Jesus being delivered into the hands of the Sanhedrin and of Pilate as being part of the 3 days and three nights “experience”.

If one includes about 3-4 oclock in the morning Friday AM(Peter had to hear the cock crow thrice and Go a full 72 hours...it does take you out to early AM Monday...which is a problem because the women who came to apply spices came in the Early morning of the “first day of the week” which would be Sunday.(but not a full 72 hours) unless we start reckoning from say Thursday morning which would allow for enough time for Christ to be judged in the San Hedrin, sent to Pilate, Sent across Town(depending on where he was, could have been miles away)to be judged by Herod and then sent back to Pilate for final judgment(Barrabus...Barrabus!)...so that it probably all took considerable time before they actually got around to hanging him on the cross. Which is fine there still is that pesky...” we need to get him down and buried because the Sabbath is coming and they didn’t want him “hanging” around(mostly on their consciences) after the Sabbath began.

So we’re stuck back on a Friday crucifixion with no time for a complete 72 hour period between his death and burial and the First day of the week. If you go back to Wednesday...you still get stuck with the problem of the timing of Christ’s burial as needing to happen before the Sabbath began(as per the record in the Bible)

Hence that is why Luke 24 makes better sense concerning the timing of the death and resurrection as to what the angel said to the ladies “He was to be delivered into the hands of sinful men, then to be crucified and to rise again ON THE THIRD DAY!”

In modern vernacular then....over a three day period: Jesus was judged and convicted, beaten, crucified but then buried before the Sabbath began and sometime on the third day/night rose again just as any simple confused person like myself would understand it as coming from angel who might speak to me if I went to the tomb myself looking for Christ.

He then at some point presented himself first to the ladies and later on to two disciples on the Emmaus Road all on the first day of the week (which was also on the day of “First Fruits”).


58 posted on 04/01/2018 5:32:54 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: mdmathis6

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Enough of your nonsense.

You wish to rely on self-appointed “scholars” (of nonsense) to deny what the writings of the Notzerim themselves made clear, not to mention the importance of prophetic types that hold true throughout the scriptures (the real scriptures that the Notzerim called scripture), and all this to justify the obviously frivolous rantings of the “church” that denies 90% of Tanach to justify their pagan constructs.

I reject all the insanity to which you cling, and that will remain so until you can embrace scripture without changing it.

Please waste no more of your time and mine responding to my posts with fairy gas.
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59 posted on 04/01/2018 8:58:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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