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Pastor mourns lost child, aborted 22 years ago
Clinic Quotes ^ | Feb 13, 2018 | Sarah Terzo

Posted on 02/17/2018 9:22:38 AM PST by Morgana

Pastor Shane Idleman describes losing a child to abortion:

“Approximately 22 years ago, as a prodigal, I conceded to my girlfriend’s request to abort our child around the 5th week. The pain of that decision still haunts me today.

What would my child look like? Was it a boy or a girl? I can picture walking and talking with my child…watching his or her first steps…holding them when they cry and rejoicing with them when they succeed. But these are just dreams in my mind; dreams that often leave me heartbroken.

Regret is one of the hardest pains because it is a constant reminder that we failed.”

Shane Idleman “My Child Would Have Been 22 This Year” Focus on the Family

visited 2/10/2018


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abortion; clinicquotes; focasonthefamily; prolife; theysaidit
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To: Morgana

At the link to Focus on the Family (via Clinic Quotes) the pastor continues,

“And now, a word for my fellow pastors: we can no longer remain silent while silent screams go unheard. We are to be pillars who support truth. Today, the truth is often neglected, watered-down, or avoided altogether in the hope of not offending members and building a large audience.

“Abortion is rarely mentioned so repentance is never sought. We want to build a church rather than break a heart; be politically correct rather than biblically correct; coddle and comfort rather than stir and convict.”

Not only does he regret his youthful decision, but he wants to point to the correct pro-life way going forward.

What he and other Christian leaders need to do as well is to help support a morally strong culture where sex is honored within marriage and children are seen as a blessing and not an inconvenience to be disposed of.

There are many, many people out there who close their ears when there is a plea to lead a chaste and responsible life. Too many pastors don’t want to “offend” these people.


41 posted on 02/17/2018 3:34:50 PM PST by thecodont
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To: MrEdd

May I ask your basis for this conclusion? about a wound opening, I mean?


42 posted on 02/17/2018 4:39:32 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: metmom; MrEdd
I think your point is, and mine, that God has not forgotten the child, delivered naturally or not, nor has He forgotten the babe's mother, nor the father of it. What He has forgiven and forgotten for the repentant ones, what they did to the child, who is entirely in His care, and they, too, if they are his children. He is not holding their error against them, and they should not have some kind of "open wound" now, if God has healed it.

Does that ring true to you, MM?

43 posted on 02/17/2018 4:52:45 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

No, cause the post you’re referring to was about the harsh condemning attitude of a certain poster who revels in God condemning people.

People change and forgiveness is what God’s is all about, not rubbing salt in the wound.


44 posted on 02/17/2018 5:07:21 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

Amen, metmom.

Well said.


45 posted on 02/17/2018 5:14:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God's desire that all men be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." - 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: metmom; napscoordinator
The idea of an unforgiving "God" who does not accept the brokenshearted and wash them clean, contrasts starkly with the True God preached in the Catholic Church since Peter and Paul.

Tagline.

46 posted on 02/17/2018 5:20:55 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God's desire that all men be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." - 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; napscoordinator; Mrs. Don-o; metmom; daniel1212

Actually, the DRB is in better agreement with the KJV than any of the “modern” versions are, the ones using a synthesized NT Alexandrian-type Greek text and a man-made interpretive translational process for both (the same method that Eve used in explaining the mind of Gode to a serpent).


47 posted on 02/17/2018 5:21:03 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Experience.
Though I had no part in making the decision.
We were engaged but attending separate universities.


48 posted on 02/17/2018 5:26:12 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: metmom

Com[pare your Post #17 to my Post #13.


49 posted on 02/17/2018 5:33:39 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Here in PA, Lutheran pastors start at 60 grand a year, with $1500 a month housing allowance and $1000 a month car allowance. Nice work if you can get it!...BTW...I know because my son-in-law is one of them! And they also eat VERY well...too well, judging from all the weight he has gained over the past 10years! 🤣🙀😎
50 posted on 02/17/2018 5:34:56 PM PST by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It is the lesser of two evils.


51 posted on 02/17/2018 5:37:23 PM PST by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: miserare
Yeah, yeah. Lesser of two evils. I guess when you only compare evils to evils, some evils look better. That's the evil of two lessers.

But why not go for the good? Why no say you only ought to have sexual relations with somebody you can happily foresee having children with, and if that's case, be honest about it and get married.

And make sure you're marrying somebody who's pro-life. That should be obvious.

And that would be positively good.

52 posted on 02/17/2018 5:41:21 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God's desire that all men be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." - 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Unfortunately, not everyone in the whole world is as upright and abstemious as you...nor as judgemental.


53 posted on 02/17/2018 5:47:49 PM PST by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: miserare

Hm? I’m judgmental for calling marriage with a pro-life spouse, good?

Yeah, I guess that’s a judgment. I plead guilty as charged.


54 posted on 02/17/2018 5:50:03 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God's desire that all men be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." - 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: miserare

That’s still a far cry from “wealthy”!


55 posted on 02/17/2018 6:49:55 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: Morgana

Rachael’s Vineyard has a recovery weekend for such cases.


56 posted on 02/17/2018 7:01:33 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: miserare; Mrs. Don-o
Unfortunately, not everyone in the whole world is as upright and abstemious as you...nor as judgemental.

You're accusing Mrs. Don-O of being judgmental?!?!?! Are you serious?

In light of what I recall you posting upthread in post 15, which I am providing for you for your convenience, that it the absolute height of hypocrisy.

You are one of the LAST people who should be pointing any fingers in blame for being judgmental.

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3632905/posts?page=15#15

Thus says miserare in post 15.......

This “pastor” is extremely egocentric , self-indulgent, and melodramatic. Bet he had a lot of fun getting her pregnant...too bad he wasn’t responsible enough to wear a condom!

You very seriously need to take the log out of your own eye.

57 posted on 02/17/2018 7:06:40 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom; Mrs. Don-o; miserere

“This is why we can’t have nice things,” as it were. On threads discussing the Olympics, people are carrying on about homosexual displays which are both tacky and distracting.

Meanwhile, if a person nicely says that the Christian ideal for human sexuality involves a man and a woman, married for life, having children as they naturally arrive ... you’re “judgmental.”

This reminds me of the recent government diktat in France, where a disability-rights organization was prohibited from running ads showing people with Down’s Syndrome living happily, because that would upset all the people who aborted their babies diagnosed with Down’s.


58 posted on 02/18/2018 5:44:55 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The idea of an unforgiving "God" who does not accept the brokenhearted and wash them clean, contrasts starkly with the True God preached in the Catholic Church since Peter and Paul.

If I thought that was "God," I'd worship Athena instead. Libraries, arts and crafts, armed mayhem!

59 posted on 02/18/2018 5:47:01 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Tax-chick

Laughed, actually. So true. Well said.


60 posted on 02/18/2018 8:57:28 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God's desire that all men be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." - 1 Tim 2:4)
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