Open Apostasy In The Vatican

Traditional Catholic Priest ^ | January 5, 2018 | Fr. Jerome - Guest Post

[ebb tide]

Here is another post from Fr. Jerome –

The state of the Church right now is the fault of conservatives, not liberals.  Vatican II was hijacked by liberals 50 years ago only because conservatives were sleepy and trusting of men.  And this continues in Rome today to a worse extent. 

Yes, there will always be liberals who hate Christ, but what is different now from the rest of Church history is that Christ’s closest clerical friends are too afraid to fight for His Church.  No, the four Cardinals of the Dubia are nothing like St. Athanasius or St. Maximus the Confessor or St. Nicholas or St. John Chrysostom.

The saints had no need to “hear out” heretics in a “pastoral” manner. There will always be heretics, but that is not the problem.  The problem is the want of saints.  The saintly bishops of the first 500 years of the Church revealed the poisonous words of heretics, gentle as they be, were sent into exile, and then they were vindicated (usually in their lifetime) for their reckless courage.  I see no reckless courage today in the face of open heresy.  And this is why the open heresy of four years ago in the Vatican has become an open apostasy in the highest ranks in the Church.

Let me remind the readers of three definitions:

1) Heresy is the denial of even one part of Divine Revelation

2) Apostasy is a full renunciation of the unique and redemptive act of Jesus Christ.

3) Soteriology is the study of salvation.

The false prophet on the Chair of Peter is now espousing a soteriology that is little different from a Unitarian Universalist.  We have full apostasy now in the Vatican…and not a single bishop is willing to say anything against full and outright soteriological apostasy?  No.  Rather, our most “courageous” prelates flex their muscles against a single sexual line in Amoris Laetitia.

This is not courage. It is not courage that no one questions a clearly-forced Papal-resignation of Pope Benedict XVI.  It is not courage that no one (except a retired courageous bishop in Texas) questions a tampered-Conclave to elect our current false-prophet.

Like the Republicans in the 1980s in the USA who promised to end abortion in order to keep their office (but did very little) I fear these “conservative” bishops are doing as much damage to the Church as the gay Cardinals who hate the Church and are overturning every point of Our Faith.  Why? Why are the former like the latter?

For not resisting with courage.  If any bishop should ever read this, let me remind you that the Holy Spirit in the book of the Apocalypse places through the Apostle John cowards in the same lake of fire as murderers:

“But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”—Apocalypse 21:8 ESV

I for one:  resist.  I renounce the open apostasy in the Vatican in the name of Jesus Christ and I beg the wrath of St. Peter and St. Paul to stop this blasphemy of the Eternal City and this mockery of Jesus Christ’s own apostolic succession.  I will reveal my name when I am ready to lose my faculties as a priest in current good standing and go into exile, but for now, I resist in the name of Jesus Christ.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“That’s a little more extremely sinful than I would be willing to accept in my leadership.

Me too. But these actions have happened under the recent “popes.”

[independentmind]

No. I loved JPII, but he permitted a lot of problems to fester in the Church.

In fact, I think Bergoglio was appointed Bishop by JPiI, over the objections of some in Argentina.

[ebb tide]

That’s a little more extremely sinful than I would be willing to accept in my leadership.

And who exactly is your "leadership"?

Or are you one of those with a direct connection to God and doesn't need His Church?

[ebb tide]

That’s a little more extremely sinful than I would be willing to accept in my leadership.

Obama was the President of the U.S. for eight years. Did you refuse to pay your federal income taxes during his terms? Or did you accept his leadership and pay your taxes?

[Old Yeller]

Obama was the President of the U.S. for eight years. Did you refuse to pay your federal income taxes during his terms? Or did you accept his leadership and pay your taxes

Because we go to prison if we don't pay taxes. There's no negative repurcussions for leaving the Catholic cult. As a matter of fact, the truth will set you free.

[sparklite2]

Yes, there will always be liberals who hate Christ

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How bizarre. Why bother supporting and going to a church where you hate the deity? It’s not like there is a gun to their heads.

[moonhawk]

They’re in it to destroy it. Satan attacks God’s True Church.

[ebb tide]

Because we go to prison if we don't pay taxes.

Have you heard of martyrs?

[Luircin]

And who exactly is your “leadership”?

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Jesus Christ, of course, our High Priest.

I don’t ‘need’ any Roman Church because Jesus died for me and I believe in the promises that he made, as recorded by the Apostles in Holy Scripture.

That makes me part of the ekklesia, as Scripture states.

That is, the ONLY ‘One True Church’ as opposed to the self-proclaimed nonsense of Rome.

[Luircin]

Obama was the President of the U.S. for eight years. Did you refuse to pay your federal income taxes during his terms? Or did you accept his leadership and pay your taxes?

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Poor analogy, especially considering that Jesus said ‘render unto Ceasar.’ And THAT Ceasar was a lot worse than Obama was.

The Romanists claim to be the representative of Jesus on Earth. Why the (literal) Hell should I believe them when the very leaders who are supposed to be the best of them are acting like literal and unrepentant Hellspawn? Jesus himself said in Revelation 2 that he would remove the lampstand of any church who did far less than what is commonly accepted in the Vatican.

From their fruits you shall know them, as Jesus said.

[ebb tide]

Do you worship Jesus Christ in a particular “church” on Sundays or do you just do it in your head?

[Luircin]

If it was any other religion whose leaders shuffled pedos around and had homosexual orgies in blatant defiance of the Word, would you be saying the same thing as you’re saying now in defense of Catholicism?

[narses]

Like the public schools? Like most organized religions? Like the Boy Scouts? Your bigotry and ignorance is on full display here.

[Luircin]

I haven’t the slightest idea of the point you’re trying to make, sir.

If some organization is claiming to be Christ’s representative on Earth, I expect them to act like it and I expect them to hold themselves to a higher standard.

I expect them to NOT blatantly turn away from the Word that they’re supposed to uphold.

And your cookie-cutter accusations are not only stupid but against RF rules.

[Luircin]

What would the Apostle Paul say about an organization that tolerates and hides such wickedness in their own ranks while claiming to be the ‘One True Church’?

The coverup is worse than the crime.

[ebb tide]

So you won’t identify the denomination in which you worship Jesus Christ?

Why not?

[Luircin]

Why are you so intent on getting my answer to that question? Especially since I’ve never made a secret of it.

Let me put it simply.

I’m never, NEVER going to trust my soul to some wicked organization that protected sexual predators while claiming absolute moral authority over me, not even if they fatuously claim to be the so-called ‘one true church.’

And personally I wonder why you seem to be more upset about me not being Catholic than about how the Catholic hierarchy protected sexual predators while claiming to be the representative of Jesus on Earth.

[ebb tide]

You have no home page.

You refuse to reveal your denomination while you attack mine, which I openly profess.

So who’s keeping secrets?

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

Peter the Roman, the last pope.....

[Luircin]

It’s called a posting history, my friend.

I still don’t get why it matters that I’m Missouri Synod Lutheran, unless you intend to pull out that stupid ‘WE WUZ FURST’ argument.

Since you refuse to address them, I take it you’re conceding every other point about the wickedness of the Roman Catholic church?