You've already taken it upon yourself to judge your own salvation?
[31] And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. [32] And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. [34] Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [35] For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:
[36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. [37] Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? [39] Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? [40] And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.
[41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.
[46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.
Matthew Chapter 25
Does the above sound like "by faith alone"?
It looks more like it's about "faith and works", doesn't it?
ET; is your name written; RIGHT NOW; in the Lamb's Book of Life?
Of course!
Who else is capable other than GOD?
2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you-unless, of course, you fail the test?
Jesus is not talking about the church age in Matthew 25.
This is what Jesus says about faith and works.
John 3:3-8 Jesus answered him,“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
John 3:14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
John 6:29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
St. Paul’s letter to the Ephesians: “6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”
Sounds more like works are the proof of faith, but faith is what saves.
Unless you are saying that the Bible contradicts itself?
Nope. It's over and done with.
I am saved now and my judgment has passed.
John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
You've already taken it upon yourself to judge your own salvation?
Again, no. I just believe God when HE tells me something is a done deal.
It's called *faith*.
You guys boggle my mind...Absolutely those verses speak of faith and works...But can you find faith and works in the Pauline epistles to the 'church'...Most definitely not, you can't...So what do you Catholics do??? You basically throw away the epistles to the church so you can glom onto the the scriptures that put you into bondage to your Catholic religion...
If you can't reconcile ALL of the New Testament Scripture, you have no business trying to teach doctrine to any one at any time...
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Now put those verses next to the ones you posted and when you can reconcile and justify ALL of that scripture, get back to me...
No...There is no final judgment for Christians...We have been judged already as far as salvation goes...
You've already taken it upon yourself to judge your own salvation?
Nope...I take it upon myself to believe what Jesus said to the Gentile church...And I posted just a few of the many scriptures that prove that...
No...There is no final judgment for Christians...We have been judged already as far as salvation goes...
You've already taken it upon yourself to judge your own salvation?
Nope...I take it upon myself to believe what Jesus said to the Gentile church...And I posted just a few of the many scriptures that prove that...
Understand the order of things.
4But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
6and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
8For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
Eph 2:4-10 NASB
True believers in Christ come to Him through faith and only faith. There is no work you can do to earn your faith as noted above. It is God's gift that we can come to Him through faith.
Once we become a disciple of Christ we are to follow and keep His commandments. As Jesus said, "My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples (John 15:8 NASB).
If we are doing this we are bearing fruit...or call it works. Either way, we are now working for Him and His kingdom.
Matthew Chapter 25 Does the above sound like "by faith alone"? It looks more like it's about "faith and works", doesn't it?
That is a strawman of solafide, which does not teach than an inert faith is salvific, but only that which effects obedience by the Spirit. God purifies the heart by faith, and which faith is manifest in baptism and obedience, but the effect is not the cause of justification, as "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." (Romans 4:5)
Abraham was thus justified by faith (Gn. 15:6) before he went to offer up Issac, (Gn. 22) but which justified him as one having true faith, and in that sense works are necessary as fruit, "things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak," (Hebrews 6:9) though God sees the heart.
Those of a convicted broken (or pride) heart and contrite spirit needs only to believe on the Christ of the gospels to receive deliverance (Luke 8:50) and or forgiveness, (Jn. 3:26; 5:24; Acts 10:43) but since only effectual faith is salvific, promises of salvation are also made to those confess the Lord in word and in deed (Acts 2:38; Romans 10:9-10), who do the will of God by the Spirit (Hebrews 10:36; Romans 8:13,14) who obey, (Mark 16:16; Hebrews 5:9) for to do the latter (obedience) testifies to doing the former (effectual justifying faith in heart)
Likewise the Lord said in dealing with the palsied man, "Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?" (Mark 2:9) for to do the former was to do the latter.
But despite some extreme hyperbole to the contrary, and faults, in clear statements brave Luther himself rejected the idea that a faith which did not effect characteristic obedience was salvific, stating,