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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide; Mark17

So everyone who has faith in Jesus Christ is saved, regardless of his works, or lack of works?

If so, what’s your problem with us Catholics?

***

Well, let’s see.

Playground insults, calling us heretics, demanding that we abandon the promises directly from our Lord Jesus for a hamster wheel of works that St. Paul says CAN’T earn salvation, general condescending attitude, and lying about us on a public board and to our faces.

Can’t be a problem with all Catholics, but there’s my problems with you.


1,241 posted on 12/06/2017 10:47:06 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
Hey, I believe in the promises from Jesus’ own mouth.

So did Judas Iscariot at one time.

Look where he ended up.

1,242 posted on 12/06/2017 10:47:28 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Post 267. Ebb tide lumps the Apostle Paul in with Luther and declares him a ‘fellow traveler’ to the ‘heretic.’

St. Paul: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.”

ebb tide: “No. Only the heretic Martin Luther, and his fellow travelers state that; and Luther’s no saint. “

Sounds a lot like calling St. Paul a heretic to me!


1,243 posted on 12/06/2017 10:51:24 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide

So are you admitting that the promises of Jesus are true?

Then why don’t you believe them?


1,244 posted on 12/06/2017 10:53:56 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
Playground insults,

Really?

Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism

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Luircin to ebb tide

Now why on earth should I do ANY work for you if you yourself said that you refuse to read it?

Why should I research any posts or pull out my Hebrew notes if you refuse to even read a single verse of Scripture that I challenge you to read?

Filthy hypocrite is what you are, ebb. Filthy hypocrite.

Also, you continue to commit mortal sins by refusing to repent of your deliberate falsehoods.


1,245 posted on 12/06/2017 10:54:08 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Syncro; ebb tide

I thought I saw you post a little while ago that you read the Bible?

It’s in there.

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Considering the Biblical illiteracy he’s showed on St. Paul’s letter to the Ephesians (claimed a quote from it was written by Luther), on the Tablets of the Law in the Ark of the Covenant, and the ignorance of St. John’s statement that hatred makes one a murderer...

I have my doubts about any claims of reading any more of the Bible than his Catholic propaganda websites put out.


1,246 posted on 12/06/2017 10:58:11 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide
You left out the description of the Catholic Mary.

Here's my whole post which you cherry picked from:

It's Catholicism that has the same god as Islam.

The God of the Bible has a Son, Jesus.

The god that Catholics believe in (according to your pope) is the same god that Islam believes in. That false god has no son.

But hay, can the One World Religion come together without Catholicism merging with Islam? Nope and ya gots a GOOD start.

You may die as a martyr by killing Christians being as your god is the same as the false god Allah.

Heck you don't even have to convert, your pope "merged" you with Islam.

Islam loves the Catholic "Mary"

Here is the Catholic Mary gleaned from FR:

'Miracle of the sun' broke darkness of Portugal's atheist regimes
This is the miracle that led to the Fatima children's canonization (Catholic Caucus)
The Miracle for the Canonization of Jacinta and Francesco [Catholic Caucus]
We’re in Danger of Overlooking the Most Important Part of Fatima [Catholic Caucus]
Our Lady of Fatima - Historical Masterpiece by Most Rev. Bishop Sheen 1954 (22 min. U-Tube)
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Our Blessed Mother’s Urgent Call

Everything You Need to Know about Fatima (Part 2) [Catholic Caucus]
Our Lady of Fatima’s Antidote To Relativism (Catholic caucus)
Everything You Need to Know about Fatima (Part 1) [Catholic Caucus]
Our Lady of Fatima’s Antidote To Relativism (Catholic caucus)
5 Surprising Revelations of the Third Secret of Fatima (CATHOLIC CAUCUS)
Understanding Fatima
DON’T TURN YOUR BACK ON FATIMA (Catholic Caucus)
Our Lady’s Request: Pray for the Dying! (Our Lady of Fatima [Catholic Caucus]
Original Manuscript of Fatima's 'Third Secret' Will Soon be Part of an Exhibit
Sunday Night Prime with Fr Apostoli and Beth Lynch (Russia and Fatima prophecies) {Cath Caucus]
The Consecration and Fatima, Redux
America Needs Fatima Public Square Rosary
Lourdes and Fatima: True or False?
Fatima and World Peace (Catholic / Orthodox Caucus)
Fatima, Freemasonry, Vatican II and 1960
Our Lady of Fatima and the “...... Connection”
Optional Memorial of Our Lady of Fatima
Pontificate of Pope Francis to be consecrated to Our Lady of Fatima on May 13, 2013 (Cath Caucus)
Francis' Petrine Ministry Consecrated to Our Lady of Fatima (CATHOLIC CAUCUS)
Fatima Shrine recalls Pope Francis' sponsorship of the Pilgrim Image of the Virgin of Fatima
Cardinal Bergoglio wrote to Fr. Gruner about Fatima [Catholic Caucus]
After Venezuela's election results 2 words come to mind: Fatima's Prophecy

The Cathedral of Our Lady of Fatima in the Heart of the Gulag Archipelago
Archbishop Loris Capovilla has "reservations" about Fatima and Marian devotion in general
Not 2012 But 2017!
On Fatima anniversary, Fr. Apostoli sees atheism overtaking the West (Catholic Caucus)
Fatima, A Grace for Mankind [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
High resolution pictures of the miracle of the sun
Pope Benedict XVI and the 'Third Secret' of Fatima (surprisingly fair article)
Bishops must rediscover their role as fathers, declares Benedict XVI from Fatima
Half a million attend the Pope's Fatima mass
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Half a million pilgrims join the pope for a Mass in Fatima [VIDEO]
Pope: We Would be Mistaken to Think That Fatima’s Prophetic Mission is Complete
Pope Benedict XVI's Homily on the Feast of Our Lady of Fatima
Holy Father's Address at Fatima Shrine
A Marian Offense for Benedict XVI
Vatican cardinal: There is no fourth secret of Fatima
Discourse No. 4.1 Pope Entrusts and Consecrates Priests to Our Lady of Fatima
Pope Benedict XVI in Portugal – Discourse No. 4 Homily Vespers with Clergy and Religious
Benedict brings 'Marian Cool' to fevered Fatima devotion
Daily Marian Prayer And Image [DEVOTIONAL]
Papal Visit to Portugal: Text of the Secret of Fátima with Commentary

Papal Visit to Portugal: Apparitions of Our Lady [of Fatima]
Papal Visit to Portugal: Apparitions of the Angel
Papal Visit to Portugal: The Fatima Children
Papal Visit to Portugal: History of Portugal
Benedict XVI’s presser on plane to Portugal, clerical crisis and “third secret” (Catholic Caucus)
Fatima debate: Some say 'third secret' is still secret
The Third Secret (of Fatima) - Did The Pope Lie?
Fatima. The "Secret" Revealed (Catholic Caucus)
Is There Missing Text Of The Third Secret?
Top Ten Scientific Explantions of Miracle of Sun at Fatima (Catholic Caucus)
Fatima and the Theology of the Body: Part II
Fatima and Akita
Fatima and the Theology of the Body: Part I
The Story of Fatima -- Part 2
The Story of Faitma -- Part 1
Pius XII Saw "Miracle of the Sun" [Catholic Caucus]
Sister Lucia's Beatification Process to Begin ( Pope Waves 5-Year Waiting Period)
The faithful remember miracle of Fatima, Thousands gather in Washington Twp. on 90th anniversary
Giant new church at Fatima shrine
Fatima: Case Closed

Sister Lucia's Last Moments
Rosary Rallies Planned for Fatima Anniversary [Catholic Caucus]
Sister Lucia's Unpublished Writings Released - Visionary Reflects on Marian Apparitions
Fatima Statue Due at Vatican to Mark a Fateful Day 25 Years After Attempt on John Paul II's Life
Last Fatima child buried in final resting place (Sr. Maria's remains transferred to Fatima)
Our Lady of Fatima, ‘counterrevolutionary’ and ‘ecumenical’
Papal praise at Sister Lucia's funeral Sr. Lucia, Fatima, and Islam
No More Secrets," Visionary Said in 2001 (Sr. Lucia Confirmed Russia Consecrated to Mary)
Mystery Fatima: Death of Lucia Accents Famed Secrets & Area's Hidden History
Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97
Mourning for Fatima seer (Portugal declares day of mourning)
Virgin Mary Child Dies (Lucia of Fatima)
LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97
Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97
SISTER LUCIA RIP
Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies
Litany of Our Lady of Fatima
Third Secret of Fatima is not fully revealed.
Our Lady of Fatima, May 13

You won't find the handmaid of the Lord Biblical Mary in those links.

The Catholic Mary is the face and foundation of Catholicism these days.

She is NOT the mother of Jesus. The Biblical Mary is.

1,247 posted on 12/06/2017 10:59:04 PM PST by Syncro (Facts is facts)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid; Luircin; boatbums
Jesus hated G-d. Jesus hated G-d’s Holy Torah. Jesus hated G-d’s Holy nation. Jesus hated the faithful Jewish Torah scholars.

Really bro? As Luircin said, prove it. You make preposterous statements like that, back it up. I don’t think He hated the Jewish Torah Scholars, but He did not have a very high opinion of them. I believe He thought they were the lowest form of life. I agree with Him, by the way, when He called the Jewish Torah Scholars a bunch of white washed tombs, full of dead men’s bones, or when He called them a bunch of snakes, or the blind leading the blind. Jesus of Nazareth, had nothing but contempt for the Jewish Torah Scholars of His day. So do I.

1,248 posted on 12/06/2017 10:59:30 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ebb tide; metmom

You hate it when it happens to you, don’tcha?

Why do you constantly insult me even when I try to be civil then? Why did you lie about metmom’s faith? Why are you calling us heretics?

You hate it when it’s done to you; why are you violating the words of Jesus to do it then?

Mortal sin.


1,249 posted on 12/06/2017 11:01:21 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
Let’s just say that there are going to be some VERY surprised people when they meet Jesus face to face.

I would say, that is an understatement of Biblical proportions. 😄

1,250 posted on 12/06/2017 11:04:36 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ebb tide

Besides, I’ve already shaken plenty of dust!

Right now I’m just getting some yuks in before bed; I’m firm in my belief that you’ll never even read the entirety of anything I say, so I’m just seeing if I can’t see you do something REALLY funny and stupid again.


1,251 posted on 12/06/2017 11:04:58 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
Post 267. Ebb tide lumps the Apostle Paul in with Luther and declares him a ‘fellow traveler’ to the ‘heretic.’

I never implied such a thing. Can you try to be honest, for once, and tell the truth?

1,252 posted on 12/06/2017 11:05:16 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
Naturally, I do not agree bro. 😁
1,253 posted on 12/06/2017 11:07:35 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Luircin

How did I insult you by just reposting your post to me?


1,254 posted on 12/06/2017 11:08:01 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Luircin

Lucifer was also firm in his belief.


1,255 posted on 12/06/2017 11:09:23 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Of course you didn’t ‘imply’. You said it outright.

St. Paul:
““1As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.””

Ebb tide quote in post 267: “No. Only the heretic Martin Luther, and his fellow travelers state that; and Luther’s no saint.”

So St. Paul is one of Luther’s ‘fellow travelers,’ is he?

Guess that means ebb tide either admits that Luther is absolutely right, or that St. Paul is a heretic.

Which is it, ebby?


1,256 posted on 12/06/2017 11:10:37 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide

How am I insulting you by calling you the hypocrite you are?


1,257 posted on 12/06/2017 11:11:29 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Syncro
We are trying out best to point to the path, but many keep stumbling over idols such as the Mary of Catholicism.

Or they stumble over the Jewish Torah Scholars. 😁

1,258 posted on 12/06/2017 11:12:44 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Luircin
Why do you constantly insult me even when I try to be civil then?

Where have I inuslted you and where have you been civil with me?

1,259 posted on 12/06/2017 11:12:55 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

When have you ever been civil with me?


1,260 posted on 12/06/2017 11:13:57 PM PST by Luircin
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