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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You are recycling as well: recycling an imperviousness to historic ewvidence, with history defined as "stuff that actually happened."

Divine Providence acts in the arena of history. Where else could it operate? It operates in the realm of "stuff that actually happened."

I don't know what sort of evidence you could possibly demand, beyond what the Church has historically believed and practiced. Unless you think the guidance of the Holy Spirit has been ----- despite Christ's promise --- negligible.

144 posted on 10/19/2017 7:22:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (God is not the Author of Confusion, but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints --1 Cor 14:33)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“I don’t know what sort of evidence you could possibly demand, beyond what the Church has historically believed and practiced. ”

Except the Church didn’t come to believe half of what Rome teaches until hundreds of years after the Apostles walked and talked.

You can search the inspired Scriptures in vain for God’s teachings On those topics and find zip.

You can search for legitimate evidence produced during the lives of the Apostles and find zip.

A hundred, two hundred, and especially three hundred years later, these pagan practices appear, are justified by Rome, and are then declared as Apostolic traditions.

No. Totally false claims mad of pagan cloth.

Never-the-less, your posts defend it all and come up with creative rationalizations to attempt to justify these things.

In the end, there is no actual list of traditions, or you’d have produced it.


145 posted on 10/19/2017 7:46:13 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mrs. Don-o; aMorePerfectUnion
I don't know what sort of evidence you could possibly demand, beyond what the Church has historically believed and practiced.

That's the problem with Roman Catholicism's claim...that the church has "always believed and practiced."

It has been demonstrated that many of Rome's most cherished beliefs are not found in the NT nor in the early years after the Apostles died.

146 posted on 10/19/2017 7:52:37 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Jesus does have this to say about traditions. Just because it allowed to happen does not mean it is approved. Traditions are not all bad but they are not all good when they override. Jesus word on this should cause all of us to say ouch.

Traditions and Commandments

Mat 15:1 Some Pharisees and teachers of religious law now arrived from Jerusalem to see Jesus. They asked Him,
Mat 15:2 “Why do Your disciples disobey our age-old tradition? For they ignore our tradition of ceremonial hand washing before they eat.”
Mat 15:3 Jesus replied, “And why do you, by your traditions, violate the direct commandments of God?
Mat 15:4 For instance, God says, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and ‘Anyone who speaks disrespectfully of father or mother must be put to death.’
Mat 15:5 But you say it is all right for people to say to their parents, ‘Sorry, I can’t help you. For I have vowed to give to God what I would have given to you.’
Mat 15:6 In this way, you say they don’t need to honor their parents. And so you cancel the word of God for the sake of your own tradition.
Mat 15:7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you, for he wrote,
Mat 15:8 ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me.
Mat 15:9 Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.’”


147 posted on 10/19/2017 7:58:51 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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