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To: SkyDancer

So you are saying that you personally have interacted with Joel Osteen enough to determine without a doubt that he is a charlatan? Are you saying that if someone accepts Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord at the end of an Osteen sermon that it isn’t valid? What exactly, makes Joel Osteen a sharlatan?


35 posted on 10/11/2017 12:07:44 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: SubMareener

No. What I said originally was I do not like him and his smarmy goodie goodie delivery of basic nonsense on riches from God and blah blah blah. Like I got millions and so can you. And how do you really know if someone like Olsteen has accepted Yashua as Lord and Savior? Are you in his mind seeing stuff? Again, do some internet searches on televangelists and their financial background and how they use God’s money for their own selfish purposes. Have to have those million dollar private jets, etc etc etc.


38 posted on 10/11/2017 12:55:06 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: SubMareener; SkyDancer
So you are saying that you personally have interacted with Joel Osteen enough to determine without a doubt that he is a charlatan?

And likewise, have you personally interacted with Osteen enough to determine without a doubt that he is NOT a charlatan?

Are you saying that if someone accepts Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord at the end of an Osteen sermon that it isn’t valid?

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. As no one knows the heart, it's impossible to tell. Osteen doesn't even have enough backbone to state on TV that Jesus is the only way to God.

Even Benny Hinn had problems with that and while I am no fan of Hinn, he was right on about Osteen. First time I can ever recall agreeing with him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQfTemtApQ

FWIW, I am suspicious of ALL prosperity gospel preachers and mega church pastors.

By their standards, Paul was a loser with weak faith and got it all wrong.

2 Corinthians 12:7-10 So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

44 posted on 10/11/2017 7:46:29 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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