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What This Atheist Saw in Hell Is Frightening (NDE)
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Posted on 10/09/2017 11:47:22 PM PDT by Sontagged

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To: tired&retired

I’ve practiced that and had one of those. It scared the crap out of me. I think my reaction has kept me from going there again.

I guess I am wrapped too tightly.


81 posted on 10/10/2017 6:44:14 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Cvengr

I understand your point.

But it makes me wonder: If the sinner’s soul is sent to Hell to keep them from being in God’s presence, why not just destroy them?

Or is the soul “un-destroyable?”

I am not intentionally trying to be difficult, but why wouldn’t God just toss them in the garbage and be done with them.


82 posted on 10/10/2017 6:48:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Who wired it?


83 posted on 10/10/2017 6:54:33 AM PDT by dubyagee ("I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.")
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To: Rockingham

Over the years I have read just about all of the scientific research on NDE’s and have discussed it with the authors, except Ian Stevenson who had died so I discussed it with his assistant and peers.

I’ve discussed the topic with Raymond Moody, Gary Schwartz, Jim Tucker, Bruce Greyson and many more.

I’ve discussed the personal NDE experiences with Eban Alexander, Dr Mary Neal, Anita Morjani, PMH Atwater and many other experiencers.

The only reason I have not written a book is that the public exposure and limelight is poison to the wonderful spiritual connection with God I have continued to experience ever since my own death.


84 posted on 10/10/2017 6:58:45 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Rockingham

“Since scientific materialism and Christianity both have to revise fundamental tenets to accommodate NDEs as real, neither has embraced research into them with enthusiasm.”

First, allow me to say that Christianity, consciousness, spirituality is all material. Just not to the limited perceptions of most people.

The human soul and the stored memories of life experiences since conception...are all physical to my perceptions.

I feel sin in a person’s soul just as you would feel a tree in your path when walking.


85 posted on 10/10/2017 7:06:05 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: robroys woman

Where the worm does not die and fire not quenched...

Eternal Hell or it ain’t Hell.

Thanks but not going to rabbit-trail about Biblical basics such as immortality of the soul.


86 posted on 10/10/2017 7:06:39 AM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: SkyDancer

Sad story! Jesus gives us free will to choose Him or reject Him and the offer, when made, is always fair.


87 posted on 10/10/2017 7:10:34 AM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Vermont Lt
If the sinner’s soul is sent to Hell to keep them from being in God’s presence, why not just destroy them?

Here are my thoughts--YMMV:

When God made us, He created us in His image--our soul is that image. Destroying that soul would be destroying a part of God. That's one reason.

A second reason is that God has respect for as as persons--not merely a tool to worship Him. Destroying any soul that does not want to be with Him is reducing our souls--our selves--down to the functionality of a tool. That is, "If it don't work, get rid of it." There's no respect there. The existence of Hell proves (to me) that God respects us for who we are--not just what we provide to Him.

88 posted on 10/10/2017 7:13:51 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Vermont Lt

If your soul is fire, then fire does not harm you.

That is the end result of soul cleansing and spiritual growth.

To a soul that has not grown, they fear the fire will kill them and the fear tortures them.

I have watched people run from the room in torture when all I did was say a silent prayer for them and they didn’t even know I said it.

This is the reason God is Light.

The reason the tares in the wheat will be burned in the end times.

That the three guys in the OT survived when thrown in the furnace.

God appeared as the burning bush.

This stuff is all real and experiential if you grow spiritually.


89 posted on 10/10/2017 7:15:05 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

We are having global warming and the sinners are afraid of it as it is caused by the increased presence of the Holy Spirit, Jesus, and God.

Take a look at the behavior of the global warming proponents and you understand why they fear God.


90 posted on 10/10/2017 7:18:02 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Global warming is the sinners perception of approaching hell.


91 posted on 10/10/2017 7:19:42 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Sontagged

We have free will until God allows us pain and suffering to teach us the right choices.


92 posted on 10/10/2017 7:21:20 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Vermont Lt

When you truly die, your ego no longer holds up the wall that blocks you from seeing and experiencing God.

Then God’s perfect Love casts out all fear and you follow the Light to Heaven .


93 posted on 10/10/2017 7:25:16 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

EGO = Edging God Out... as when we are full of ourselves we have no room for God.


94 posted on 10/10/2017 7:26:43 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: ShadowAce

“Second reason is that God has respect for as as persons—”

It’s not respect, it’s LOVE for us.

Incidentally, most people misinterprete the “fear God” phrase in the Bible. It is a mistranslation as it is not fear as we know it, but reverence or ideation or hold in awe.

Why would God want us to fear him when the first commandment is to LOVE HIM?

Further, God’s LOVE casts out fear so as long as we hold onto fear we try to hide from Him. Demons fear God. We are to Love Him as He Loves us.


95 posted on 10/10/2017 7:34:47 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Vermont Lt

“I guess I am wrapped too tightly”

You just judge yourself and feel un deserving of God’s Love. He loves you unconditionally.

Ask God for forgiveness and the slate can be wiped clean and the barrier removed.

I have worked with soldiers who have killed many people. The self moral judgement is very high. Forgiveness is available.

God appears to pick His biggest screw ups for His most important work.

Moses murdered an Egyptian. Paul as Saul killed and persecuted Christians. Peter denied Jesus 3 times and cut off the slave’s ear....

There is much hope for us.


96 posted on 10/10/2017 7:44:40 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Vermont Lt

Ditto. Once dead always dead.IMO


97 posted on 10/10/2017 7:46:32 AM PDT by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: Sontagged

Like the Apostle Paul wrote: I am the watchman warning you about what is to come and to believe on Yeshua. I’ve warned you and therefor your blood is not on my hands. (kinda a loose translation there.)


98 posted on 10/10/2017 8:07:37 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: dp0622

>We have NO CLUE how the brain work. I wish we did.<

You might enjoy reading a book by Dr Oliver Sacks:

https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Mistook-His-Wife/dp/0684853949/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1507648572&sr=8-1&keywords=Oliver+Sacks


99 posted on 10/10/2017 8:16:41 AM PDT by Darnright (Never let a good crisis go to waste!)
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To: tired&retired

Huh? Uh... no. We have free will all the time.


100 posted on 10/10/2017 8:17:28 AM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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