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Polish bishops criticise government over migrants
Catholic Herald ^ | September 18, 2017

Posted on 09/18/2017 10:25:34 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide
The church’s reproach, while so far delivered diplomatically, raises the question of whether the ruling Law and Justice party could be at risk of losing some of its wide support among believers in a country where nine out of 10 citizens identify as Catholic.

Nope. I'd say the catholic bishops are in far greater danger of losing support. Somebody needs to tell these ladies it ain't the middle ages anymore and there opinion is just that. An opinion.

21 posted on 09/18/2017 12:44:14 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: rmichaelj
Please reread the article. The Polish Bishops are trying to do the right thing here.

I think it is you who needs to reread the article. The Polish bishops are encouraging a muslim invasion of a Catholic country.

22 posted on 09/18/2017 1:03:16 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

The Roman Catholic pope is a Marxist-Globalist.


23 posted on 09/18/2017 1:07:00 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: rmichaelj
Standing at an outdoor pulpit at Poland’s holiest Roman Catholic site, the nation’s top church leader delivered a message to the president and prime minister seated before him: Poland must show compassion to refugees and respect its own Constitution.

Did you get that? The bishops want to respect a secular constitution.

24 posted on 09/18/2017 1:09:06 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Leaning Right
What wall?


25 posted on 09/18/2017 1:20:24 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Way to alienate one of your strongest support bases.

Polish people are VERY serious about their faith.


26 posted on 09/18/2017 1:28:39 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide

> What wall? <

Let’s be honest here. Most of Vatican City is surrounded by huge walls. True enough, the public can enter through St. Peter’s Square. And once in, you can walk through the square.

But you cannot stay! If Vatican officials want you out, out you go. And don’t even dream about access to Vatican offices, gardens, or palaces. They are all walled off. And also don’t even dream about applying for Vatican citizenship. Ain’t gonna happen. That citizenship is so restrictive that even life-long employees of the Vatican usually cannot get it.

The Vatican of course has every right to restrict access to its property, and to restrict access to its citizenship. But it is a bit hypocritical of it to then criticize the restrictions other countries impose.

Aside #1: I’m well aware of how small the Vatican is. But surely there is room in the City for a few high-rises to hold immigrants. I’m not seeing any go up.

Aside #2: I’m not Catholic, but I have more than a little admiration for the Catholic Church. And it distresses me to see the direction this current Pope is taking.


27 posted on 09/18/2017 2:27:33 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: ebb tide

Source sounds like a UK version Catholic Reporter


28 posted on 09/18/2017 2:31:50 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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To: Leaning Right
Let’s be honest here. Most of Vatican City is surrounded by huge walls.

You are wrong. There is no wall in front of St Peter's Basilica. It's open, all the way to the Tiber River, and beyond.

29 posted on 09/18/2017 2:54:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Leaning Right

Show us your "wall".

30 posted on 09/18/2017 3:00:40 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

ah, my mistake, makes the comment about the parish priests supporting a different position make more sense.


31 posted on 09/18/2017 3:09:09 PM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: ebb tide

> There is no wall in front of St Peter’s Basilica. It’s open, all the way to the Tiber River, and beyond. <

Yes, that’s true. That’s why I said “most of Vatican City is surrounded by huge walls”, and not “all of Vatican City is surrounded by huge walls”.

But that’s really not the point. The point is that most of Vatican City is off-limits. You cannot just stroll across the border, build yourself a shack, and then apply for citizenship.

Yet the Pope is telling other countries that they must let illegals stroll across the border, build themselves a shack, and then apply for citizenship.

As an aside (I love asides), I admire your defense of the Vatican, even though I obviously disagree. So I’ll let you have the last word if you wish. Regards!


32 posted on 09/18/2017 3:25:08 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: ebb tide

Meanwhile, back in London . . .


33 posted on 09/18/2017 4:27:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (https://imgoat.com/uploads/645920e395/39513.gif)
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To: dfwgator
Oh, do not worry. Poles are very deeply religious but not bigoted idiots. I too would rather die of hunger than forsake Jesus and leave Catholicism. But, on the other hand this doesn't mean that bishops deprived me of my brain :)
Anyway, you all must see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxamYw_e7W4

Today the ruling party has the biggest notes in polls ever and could even win the Constitution Majority (60% of seats) if elections took place today.

As to the Church hierarchy, their being influenced by the Pope Francis is more than visible. Anyway, people doesn't care and behave as if they are blind and deaf to their teaching referring the migrants, especially after the brutal rape of the Polish woman in Italy by four African so called “refugees”.

Contemporary Poles are deeply religious, even more than when JPII was their pope. Our PM’s son is a Catholic priest, many claim that our President Duda is anointed by Eucharistic Christ,and indeed they truly live the god-fearing life, no fake.

As to my personal attitude to clergy and its stance on migrants, if being asked, (not necessarily at the confession) I used to answer them straight out that in my lifetime I have never been obliged by my conscience to confess the sin against the First Commandment (I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt not have strange gods before Me)

Christ, only Christ and nobody else but Christ, father! So please, no acceptance of Allah, please do not lead me into temptation, fathers.

Would you believe, this really does:)))

34 posted on 09/19/2017 8:41:53 AM PDT by Matt_DZ_PL
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