Don't forget heretics in an Italian gay bath house.
Posted on 08/22/2017 5:27:13 PM PDT by ebb tide
A high profile Vatican consultant has publicly departed from Catholic teaching on homosexuality, saying God made “LGBTQ people … who they are.”
Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest who is the editor at large of America Magazine as well as an adviser to the Vatican's Secretariat for Communications, made the comment to the pro-homosexual organization PFLAG (Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) on August 18.
Martin spoke on the occasion of PFLAG honoring him with its 2017 Flag Bearer Award for making what it called “lasting contributions to the safety and/or equality of people who are LGBTQ, their families, and allies.” The award will be given at PFLAG’s National Convention in Portland, Oregon, two months from now.
“I'm grateful to PFLAG for this recognition, and I hope that the award serves as another reminder that all LGBTQ people are beloved children of God, that God made them who they are, and that they have as much place in our churches as anyone else,” said Martin.
The Catholic Church teaches, however, that sexual attraction to someone of the same sex is “objectively disordered” since God created sexual attraction to be between a male and female for the sake of procreation.
Because of this, the Church holds that there is no such reality as a “homosexual person,” but only a person who struggles with what the Church calls the “disorder” of being attracted to someone of the same sex.
“Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder, states a 1986 letter on the topic of homosexuality from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to the worlds’ bishops.
“[S]pecial concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not,” the letter adds.
The Church teaches that everybody, including those with a disordered sexuality — often expressing itself in lust, masturbation, fornication, pornography, homosexuality — are called to chastity, that is to the moral virtue of a rightly ordered sexuality integrated within the person.
The Church furthermore teaches that persons who struggle with same-sex attraction must be “accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity.”
While Fr. Martin has accepted various awards from pro-homosexual organizations that sell themselves as “Christian,” this may be the first time he has accepted an award from a secular pro-homosexual organization that is bluntly at odds with Catholic sexual teaching.
PFLAG exists to advance what it calls “equality and full societal affirmation of LGBT people through its threefold mission of support, education, and advocacy.” It has been a leading proponent of same-sex “marriage” and homosexual adoption in its four-decade existence.
Martin said on Twitter:
Since being named a Vatican adviser in April, Martin has used his prominence to advance the normalization of homosexuality within the Catholic Church.
Martin recently published a book titled Building a Bridge in which he outlines ways he thinks the Catholic Church should be building bridges of acceptance toward practicing homosexuals.
He has been publicly criticized by Illinois Bishop Thomas Paprocki and Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput for getting the Church’s teaching on homosexuality entirely wrong.
Last year, Martin accepted an award from the pro-homosexual New Ways Ministry. During his acceptance speech, he said that the Church should embrace homosexuality’s "special gifts" and "lay to rest" language about the “objectively disordered” nature of homosexual inclinations and acts.
Martin has been quick to denounce White Supremacists for the violence that took place last week in Charlottesville, Virginia, rightly calling racism “wrong,” “the precise opposite of Jesus' message,” and “absurd to Jesus.”
But one Catholic commentator noted the irony of Martin defending Catholic teaching on equality between races while rejecting Catholic teaching on sexuality.
>>If we go down the road of ‘God made them that way’, then we open up the idea that God does make some vessels for destruction.
Everyone is heading to Hell because all are sinners. God just chooses some for salvation.
First Judas betrays Him, then Peter denies Him -- not once, not twice, but three times -- then the rest of the Apostles blow out of town and head for the tall grass.Yes?Sc*** em. I'm sick of it. I'm leavin' the church.
Don't forget heretics in an Italian gay bath house.
So, God made them in His own image? Doubtful. But, let’s assume He made the LBGQ the way they are. But the Ts are self made.
Post of the day! Ha!
Just another Catholic pedophile priest?
That will last about 30 minutes before there will be a schism. The real Catholics may not end up with the buildings or the money, but they’ll have the truth.
1) Man's willful self-determination
2) Man's wicked self-deception
3) Man's woeful self-destruction
It’s not as simple as just Frankie the Commie. I’m sure I’m not alone when I say I’ve been enduring “the spirit of VatII” for decades.
In my view, SSPX is one of the very few Catholic organizations left in North America. Comrade Frankie wants to say they’re not Catholic, but I think I’m down to casting my lot in with them over the Argentine heretic.
It’s hard enough for me to find an FSSP parish (8 hour round trip). I would never find an SSPX.
I’m ignorant of what exactly it means to be SSPX, but wretching through these NO diminishments, truncations and women run masses is truly becoming my sacrifice to God for reparations. Totally repulsed is not healthy.
SSPX has retained Tradition and the trafictional Catholic fairh. Period.
Except for refusing to vandalize the Holy Mass and agree with an anti-Catholic pope, I find no fault in them. They did not start this quarrel.
It’s impossible for me to believe they are not the Church as it once was and should be again. They should be given deference over the Orthodox and the Lutherans, but traditional piety is discouraged more than those in grave error and abominations.
You see what I mean.
“I’m ignorant of what exactly it means to be SSPX”
We discussed that here in great detail some years back. Unfortunately, my memory ain’t what it used to was.
As far as I can recall, the biggest problem I had was the uncertainty of remaining in communion with Rome.
Some people said that SSPX was a schism, and that adhering to it brought latae sententiae excommunication. Others said no, that it was not a formal schism, and one could walk a tightrope.
I hate it that I have to deal with this again this late in the day.
When someone has a tendency to put their hand on a hot stove, endorsing that tendency by calling it natural is an act of hate, not love.
Not too hard to see which side of this argument Satan comes down on, is it?
Help, rogue tag line.
You’ve had a plate full for a very long time, as well.
It’s very alarming. Of all the few errant popes, no way have we ever had a pope who despised the Catholic faith, preferring ideology.
It can not be obedience to God to follow a wolf. That we know.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.