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To: SeekAndFind
elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. Since an overseer is entrusted with God’s work, he must be blameless – not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. Rather, he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.
Titus 1:6-9

The issue is getting drunk, not having a drink.

9 posted on 08/07/2017 10:44:28 AM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

Thanks for bringing that passage about the qualifications for elders to light here.

Because before we can answer the question about a pastor having a drink, we must first discuss what is and isn’t a pastor.

A pastor is a bishop, or a shepherd, or an elder, overseer, presbyter, what have you. It’s always a plurality of men leading an autonomous church.

It is NOT just one man who is the preacher/evangelist.

How and why so many denominations ignore and disregard simple Bible leadership and authority is just sad.


56 posted on 08/07/2017 12:12:09 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Gamecock

I agree


81 posted on 08/07/2017 2:29:15 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Gamecock

Gotta agree with you there, Gamecock. If Jesus lived and ate and drank as a normal Jew of his day, he was a regular drinker of alcohol, and so were all of His apostles.

The likelihood of them being T-totalers is as great as the likelihood they were vegans.

Drunkenness us morally rebuked. Wine per se is never prohibited, and often freely recommended. Wisdom: “Come, drink wine and milk.”

I suppose some will say that means grape juice and reconstituted powdered tofu milk. But I doubt it.


83 posted on 08/07/2017 2:47:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Come into my cell. Make yourself at home." - Lancelot (Walker Percy))
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