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To: unlearner
I don't know if you realize how unhinged you appear to people. But to sit there with your sanctimonious attitude pretending to be some holier than thou person when really you are filled with nothing more than fear and loathing is beyond ridiculous.

You know, as well as I do or as well as anyone with half a brain that if you were to answer my question honestly, your whole doctrine would fall to pieces. That is why you refuse to answer the question, not for the reasons you gave, which by the way makes you a liar.

No one in their right mind would sit there and claim to have won an argument when they know that in order to do so, they must first be willing to defend their side of the argument. Your to want to declare victory in a battle that you haven't even begun to fight. I would suggest you get back to your video games, I'm sure that with all the cheat codes you have you win all those battles.

156 posted on 06/30/2017 4:25:29 AM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot

“But to sit there with your sanctimonious attitude pretending to be some holier than thou person when really you are filled with nothing more than fear and loathing is beyond ridiculous.”

The only time you put any thought or effort into a post is when it revolves around how it makes you look. You are very concerned with appearances. Much more concerned with this than whether something is true, right, or honoring to God.

You have no way of seeing my heart. God does. Fear and loathing? I fear God, as I am supposed to. I loath detestable lies and blasphemies, as I am supposed to.

You have repeatedly mocked the Word of God and others who profess faith in Christ to defend a doctrine that is manmade and can not be supported by the Bible, including the KJV Bible. And yet when you are called out for this SIN, you lash out.

When God’s people are confronted by their own sin, at times when the Word of God comes and tells them “thou art the man,” they do not bristle up and defend themselves and justify their iniquities. They do not attack the messenger.

“You know, as well as I do or as well as anyone with half a brain that if you were to answer my question honestly”

More mockery. More demands that I follow YOUR agenda. More false accusations.

“your whole doctrine would fall to pieces”

You don’t even know what my doctrine is. We are discussing, not whether the KJV is the Word of God. It is. Is that the doctrine you intend to reprove me for?

When you slander ALL other translations, you are committing a sin that I have ALREADY PROVED the translators of the KJV would condemn. By THEIR OWN WORDS, YOU are condemned. They did not share your false doctrine of KJV ONLY.

“That is why you refuse to answer the question, not for the reasons you gave, which by the way makes you a liar.”

As God is my witness I have not lied, and I have no fear of debating you or anyone else on this forum about the authority of God’s Word. May God judge between me and you for blaspheming the Word of God and falsely accusing me in the name of Christ. Christ is the righteous judge, and He will examine both of us. We will both be accountable to Him.

My problem with debating you is first and foremost that you have blasphemed scripture and want to change the subject to strifes over words.

1 Timothy 6:4 (KJV)
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

“No one in their right mind would sit there and claim to have won an argument when they know that in order to do so, they must first be willing to defend their side of the argument.”

I’m not sure what you mean. What you proved by your silly, childish picture post was exactly what I described. You are lazy when it comes to the Word of God, lazy when it comes to self-examination, lazy when it comes to listening, but oh so quick to retort when you are questioned.

Are you aware that your picture posts are not working? I know what you posted (the soap box image) by going to the source and pulling it up. But the image that everyone else sees is that your photobucket account does not have 3rd party hosting enabled. And I was pointing out that this error in judgment was just typical of your side of this whole conversation. You thought you could quickly slap up a funny, mocking photo in response to my numerous posts of the Word of God, for which you have no respect. I’ve even posted them in the version you supposedly hold to be sacrosanct.

You minimize the work and effort of others to compile reasoned responses using the Word of God. It is the same, contemptuous attitude you have toward the Holy Scriptures when you blaspheme them.

I did not claim to win a debate with you over the languages of the scripture. I simply refused to engage in that debate. You wrongly assumed my motives for doing this. I told you plainly why. But you did not get it. And the reason is becoming clear to me. You apparently do not have eyes that see or ears that hear.

If someone said to me that I had blasphemed the Word of God, I would be stunned. I would ask where and when. I would seek to clarify my meaning and intention. If I had accidentally posted something I did not mean, I would have corrected it with the deepest of apologies. What I would not do is change the subject. I would not skip the blasphemy issue to debate math, grammar, history, or some other scholarly pursuit. I would go straight to the important issue.

For you this is trivial. No big deal. You merely blasphemed the Word of God on a thread discussing the authority of the Bible while claiming to be a follower of Christ and also meanwhile attacking and demeaning other professed believers. And then, to top it all off, when your behavior is challenged you want to lash out at the person reproving you.

Can you claim with a straight face, after being confronted with these things, that your heart is right with God? Do you even know if your heart is right with Him? Have you bothered to ask Him lately? Have you asked Him to correct and instruct you?

I have. I do constantly. I want to learn how to be like Jesus. I’m not there yet. I’m a long way from it. But I am also striving for it. And if I’m wrong about something in the Bible, including what English version I should be using, then I want to know. And I’ll receive it from God directly, or through people God sends my way, or through the mouth of a donkey if He so chooses.

How about you?

The Bible makes it very clear how the wise man and the fool respond differently to rebuke:

Proverbs 15:12, 31-33 (KJV)
A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise...
The ear that heareth the reproof of life abideth among the wise.
He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.
The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.

“That is why you refuse to answer the question, not for the reasons you gave, which by the way makes you a liar.”

You do not know my motives, and God will hold you accountable for your slander. But it is a small thing to me to be called a liar by you. You have called God a liar by mocking His word.

I enjoy debating with truth seekers. I enjoy it even if I am proved wrong. I want to know the truth. I want to be corrected if I am wrong. I pray this continually to God. And when I do engage in such debates, I argue my case, and I also listen.

When I see a thread labeled “Catholic Caucus” promoting Mary worship, I don’t bother clicking it. They have no interest in being corrected, and there is nothing that I am going to learn from idolaters about how to worship God.

And I will happily debate the languages, sources, validity of the Bible with someone who is interested in the truth. I’m not really interested in what a blasphemer of the Word of God thinks about the Bible.

“I would suggest you get back to your video games, I’m sure that with all the cheat codes you have you win all those battles.”

I don’t play video games. So far you’ve been 100% on every accusation or assumption you’ve made about me. 100% wrong.

But that is not the least bit surprising when you are unwilling to OBEY the Bible you supposedly believe.

1 Corinthians 11:28 (KJV)
But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

2 Corinthians 13:5 (KJV)
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?


158 posted on 06/30/2017 11:41:08 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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