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N Pelosi says homosexuality is ‘consistent’ with Catholicism. Are Church leaders taking her lead?
Life Site News ^ | June 22, 2017 | DOUG MAINWARING

Posted on 06/23/2017 2:50:49 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

Now Nancy isn’t going to allow her devotion to Catholicism stand in the way of her position on abortion either.


41 posted on 06/23/2017 5:25:08 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: NYer

Okay...


42 posted on 06/23/2017 5:32:55 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: NYer
Nancy Pelosi says homosexuality is ‘consistent’ with Catholicism. Are Church leaders taking her lead?

Yes.

And a dead fish first rots at the head.


43 posted on 06/23/2017 5:33:39 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: realcleanguy

Part of the delusion and problem is attending Jesuit colleges. Almost everyone I know who attended Fordham (prep and university) and Georgetown, who were real Catholics, are now either atheists or so-called Catholics who worship homosexuality, “social justice” crap, and Obamacare. They eschew all things conservative, constitutional and traditional. I get nauseous hearing their rants and intolerance.


44 posted on 06/23/2017 5:39:07 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: NYer

I also am a ‘non-practicing’ Catholic and I seem to recall from my childhood the fact that birth control was outlawed as the ONLY reason one should be ejaculating was for attempted reproduction.

Celibacy was a ‘must’ for Priests and Nuns.

Some ‘strayed’ but you ‘always’ had Priests transferring in and out and as a lad, I wasn’t privy to the ‘adult stuff’ you always heard whispers about Father so & so with a ladies name being mentioned, or - as any good practicing Irish type, maybe the Good Father liked a taste a little bit to much for the hierarchy...

Then along came the lid being blown off with the molestation ‘problem’ which REALLY got to me as when I was growing up Nuns and Priests were considered ‘sitting at Gods right hand’ and could do no wrong, so in a respect, it was kind of easy to see how a young lad could get caught up in a ‘situation’.

Now this move by Pelosi isn’t really surprising because these so call CINOs have been receiving the Sacraments while openly backing stands the Church has been (supposedly) against for years.

Of course these CINOs are given a lot of ‘free ammunition’ by a Pope that seemingly is going against the flow


45 posted on 06/23/2017 5:52:20 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"I can explain it to you BUT I can't understand if for you")
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To: NYer

You go Nancy go, don’t look back, keep it up, you are The Master Legislator, keep it up, we love you Nancy, we really do!


46 posted on 06/23/2017 6:07:05 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.56)
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To: NYer

No, homosexuality and Catholicism are not compatible...in fact, a local bishop here has just stated that there can be no Eucharist nor even a Catholic funeral for same sex partners....central Indiana. HOWEVER, being homosexual, in and of itself is not considered a sin....same sex relationships are.


47 posted on 06/23/2017 6:15:53 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERNew Testament churches had candlesticks and stars (angels) associated wALL)
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To: NYer

Satan rages in the sacristy.


48 posted on 06/23/2017 6:19:17 PM PDT by dsc
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To: xrmusn

You are always a Catholic if you are a baptized Catholic. You’re just an inactive one that can come back at any time by sitting down with a priest and getting your questions answered.

And remember, that a bad pope does not the Catholic church make.


49 posted on 06/23/2017 7:21:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

It’s not JUST the Pope, but the Cardinals who put him in, and slowly the whole magesterium.

Is it still a church when it preaches nothing but lies?


50 posted on 06/23/2017 7:41:27 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

What lies?

It preaches from the Bible. The first half of the Mass is called the Liturgy of the Word......and that includes the homily/sermon.


51 posted on 06/23/2017 7:44:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Yeah, until Hippie Frank and his cabal of Social Justice Warriors start bearing down on parishes that don’t toe the leftist line.

The problem isn’t one Pope; it’s a whole corrupt hierarchy. What happens when your ecclesiastical structure starts to demand that you violate the Word in order to be called Catholic?

I guarantee that’s what this is building up to.


52 posted on 06/23/2017 7:48:14 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

Then, just like in China, the Catholic Church will go underground.


53 posted on 06/23/2017 8:54:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

So you DON’T have to obey the Catholic church authorities in Rome?

Because it feels like I’m getting VERY conflicting messages here.

On the one hand, I’ve told that I have to obey the church’s teachings for salvation and that I shouldn’t question it because the church Magisterium is the sole authority for interpreting Scripture, and that I’m going to be damned forever if I don’t.

But now I’m told that it’s just fine if you go underground and disobey and dissent if you don’t like what the church Magisterium is teaching.

So what is it then?


54 posted on 06/23/2017 11:06:53 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: NYer

Being a homo might be all in Catholicism but one believes the Bible as the basis and guide line for Christianity then being a homo is not all right


56 posted on 06/24/2017 4:03:01 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: NYer

Yet something stirred inside me. It was my conscience.




A BIBLICAL Message to LGBT folks EVERYWHERE!



 
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.


Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 
 


Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.


Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
 
 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.
 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 


2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.

57 posted on 06/24/2017 4:34:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HarleyLady27

It’s only been 8 years now...


58 posted on 06/24/2017 4:40:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17; teppe; Normandy; StormPrepper

... Don’t the Mormons essentially do that now?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=satan+christ+brothers+mormonism&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=2e15f651412a4dfb877548c2521211fc&cc=US&setlang=en-US

I pinged 3 of them.

Perhaps they will tell us what they’ve been taught/believe.


59 posted on 06/24/2017 4:42:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: onedoug
Where might one find such a doctrinal Church these days?

ALL churches have 'doctrine'.

You'll have to be more specific.

60 posted on 06/24/2017 4:43:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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