Now see, I thought Mrs. D understood what the term sola Scriptura meant. Anyhoo, we know that the Catholic church asserts she doesn't need a chapter and verse for her doctrines, so I wonder what asking for one here is about? We can certainly point to numerous Biblical passages to prove that Scripture does teach the concepts even if a specific word is not found. That is what sola Scriptura means.
I don’t believe in Sola Scriptura, as you know, boatbums. But the reason I asked Bro. MHG about “chapter and verse” is because I actually would like to know if there are terms translated as “Rapture” or “Church Age” or “Epoch” in his Bible.
It’s a real question, because I know MHG evidently uses a Bible that doesn’t translate “Ekklesia” as “church”, and I wondered if there were more terms like that in his Scriptures. (MHG, if I’m wrong on that point, please let me know.)
This may seem dumb to you, but please don’t think it’s just me being needlessly provocative. Sometimes a translation issue can make a real difference.
My perplexity was heightened by the fact that I couldn’t find the term “Rapture” in the early Church Fathers, the leaders of the Reformation, creeds or denominational statements, or any sources before just yesterday, Biblically speaking (19th century).
Seems like a big thing for everyone -— Jews, Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants -—to totally miss for two millennia, and then discover, like Aha -—
MHG, my friend, please don’t accuse me of bad faith. I asked a question. I’m here to learn.
I find it interesting that Catholics use the argument of something not being found in Scripture means that it invalidates it when they want to disprove a non-Catholic doctrine, like the rapture, sola Scriptura, etc, but when it comes to THEIR doctrines, well, the concept is taught there, you don’t need the actual words themselves.
It’s called a double standard, aka, hypocrisy.
On many levels at that.
Try that again......
I find it interesting that Catholics use the argument of something not being mentioned in Scripture using the word(s) they prefer (and that varies by individual) means that it invalidates the whole concept when they want to disprove a non-Catholic doctrine, like the rapture, sola Scriptura, etc, but when it comes to THEIR doctrines, well, if the concept is taught there, you dont need the actual words themselves.
Its called a double standard, aka, hypocrisy.
On many levels at that.