Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: righttackle44
The only ‘missing’ will be those that returned to the Maker that sent them. There will be no literal ‘rapture’, regardless of the claims to the contrary. Christ is returning here to this earth to set up His kingdom...

Ezekiel
Chapter 13 debunks the rapture doctrine!

1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear ye the word of the LORD;
3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!
4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts.
5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.
6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.
7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?
8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD.
9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:
11 Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it.
12 Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?
13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it.
14 So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst thereof: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
15 Thus will I accomplish my wrath upon the wall, and upon them that have daubed it with untempered morter, and will say unto you, The wall is no more, neither they that daubed it;
16 To wit, the prophets of Israel which prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and which see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, saith the Lord GOD.
17 Likewise, thou son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people, which prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy thou against them,
18 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?
19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?
20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Heaven is wherever God is, and God's most favorite place is described in Ezekiel 16. Jerusalem, and He intends on reclaiming it.

11 posted on 06/19/2017 10:51:13 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Just mythoughts

You have the longest post so that must mean you win the argument about the Rapture. But why didn’t you post three or four more chapters???


13 posted on 06/19/2017 11:01:39 PM PDT by EliRoom8
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]

To: Just mythoughts
Just finished Isaiah, now reading through Jeremiah and they also do not support the rapture ideas.
I wouldn't waste one second trying to disuade those who believe that the Bible says there will be a rapture because experience has shown they are impervious to evidence.
25 posted on 06/19/2017 11:50:18 PM PDT by stormhill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]

To: Just mythoughts
Heaven is wherever God is, and God's most favorite place is described in Ezekiel 16. Jerusalem, and He intends on reclaiming it.

Yes He will, He will RETURN with all His saints for His brethren, the people of Israel.

"I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on Me, the One they have pierced, and they will mourn for Him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for Him as one grieves for a firstborn son." Zec 12:10
116 posted on 06/20/2017 8:01:14 AM PDT by georgiegirl (Count me covfefe in the Deplorable Basket)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]

To: Just mythoughts; Ezekiel
Thank you for sharing your sanity...

BOOK OF ENOCH

Parable of Enoch on the Future Lot of the Wicked and the Righteous

CHAPTER I.

1. The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect and righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed. 2. And he took up his parable and said--Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God, saw the vision of the Holy One in the heavens, which the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, but not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come.

Jeremiah 16:19 O YHVH, my strength and my fortress,
My refuge in the day of affliction,
The Gentiles shall come to You
From the ends of the earth and say,
“Surely our fathers have inherited lies,
Worthlessness and unprofitable

יְהוָה עֻזִּי וּמָעֻזִּי וּמְנוּסִי בְּיוֹם צָרָה אֵלֶיךָ גּוֹיִם יָבֹאוּ מֵאַפְסֵי־אָרֶץ וְיֹאמְרוּ אַךְ־שֶׁקֶר נָחֲלוּ אֲבוֹתֵינוּ הֶבֶל וְאֵין־בָּם מוֹעִיל

O YHVH, my strength and my fortress,
My refuge in the day of affliction

affliction/tribulation tsarah צָרָה

Matthew 24:21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.

כִּי אָז תִּהְיֶה צָרָה גְדוֹלָה אֲשֶׁר כָּמוֹהָ לׂא־נִהְיְתָה מֵרֵאשִׁית הָוֹלָם וְעַד־עַתָּה וְכָמוֹהָ לׂא תוֹסִף

Great tribulation, tsarah gadol צָרָה גְדוֹלָה

Revelation 2:20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent.

22 Behold, I cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of her works.

הִנְנִי מַפִּיל אׂתָהּ לְמִשְׁכָּב וְאֶת־הַמְנָאֲפִים עִמָּהּ בְּצָרָה גְדוֹלָה אִם־לׂא יָשׁוּבוּ מִמַּעֲשֵׂיהֶם

Great tribulation, gadol tsarah צָרָה גְדוֹלָה

Except they repent שׁוּבוּ of her works...

A (very) sad aspect of Yeshua's address to Thyatira is that the 'teachers' who teach Jezebel's curriculum (including rapture) are not included in the church! They are outside.

O YHVH, my strength and my fortress,
My refuge in the day of affliction/tribulation

There's our protection!

So that's three prophets and The Messiah vs. a traveling salesman, if this was a poker game the rapture crowd folds!

We need to gather the 'sane' people (in this forum) to provide information to survive what's coming, Jeremiah 16:19 is a start. After all, The Lord's Prayer says 'Your kingdom come' not your kingdom run.

Thanks again!

145 posted on 06/20/2017 6:31:14 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHI)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson