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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Seriously. Who did you think I meant, when I said "the Church" wrote the NT Scriptures? Did you think I had anybody in mind, other than Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, James, Jude, and Paul?

Did they not write these books with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, in the church and for the church --- and for the salvation of the world? How can you say "They did not"?

You always seem to be imagining that --- well, I don't know what. That there's this thing called "the Church" which is at best earthly, at worst evil --- without at all understanding that this very church, which is both earthly and heavenly, both human and divine --- is the Christ-founded instrument of "God's larger reason and plan."

If not, why did He found it?

252 posted on 05/27/2017 2:24:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If he refuses to listen even to the Church, regard him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

God did not ‘found’ “the Catholic Church”. GOD, by HIS HOLY SPIRIT established the list of believers in GOD THE SON and this was known by the earliest members as The Ekklesia, the body of believers. YOU are working for the ‘other religion’, one that is works and striving based for faux salvation.


257 posted on 05/27/2017 6:12:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Seriously. Who did you think I meant, when I said "the Church" wrote the NT Scriptures?"

I took it at face value, as I try to do with your posts. Your post claimed the Church wrote the Scriptures.

Did they not write these books with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, in the church and for the church --- and for the salvation of the world? How can you say "They did not"?

They wrote their letters and books for the identical reason men (and not institutions) have always written Scripture - the Holy Spirit came upon them as I documented up-thread.

You always seem to be imagining that --- well, I don't know what. That there's this thing called "the Church" which is at best earthly, at worst evil --- without at all understanding that this very church, which is both earthly and heavenly, both human and divine --- is the Christ-founded instrument of "God's larger reason and plan."

Any institution that fails to do the single job God gave it to do, is a worldly, earthly church. The sacramental merit is a fine example of a worldly and pagan practice that stands in opposition to God's revealed plan of salvation.

If not, why did He found it?

Christ began an assembly for fellowship and teaching while on earth. God's plan though is not just to establish an earthly church. It is a bride for His Son - made up of every believer in Christ, regardless of where they fellowship while on earth.

258 posted on 05/27/2017 6:38:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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