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[Vanity]Defending Pontius Pilate
5/11/2017 | Stormprepper

Posted on 05/11/2017 6:24:05 PM PDT by StormPrepper

In my humble opinion Pontius Pilate was not only NOT evil but he will probably be saved at the judgment. He certainly had the potential to be a very good man.

The Jews at the time of Christ were the only people in the history of mankind that were so wicked they would crucify their own God.

This fact plays into God's plan for our salvation. Jesus would come to earth, gain a physical body, learn through mortal experiences pain, anquish, temptation, and joy. He would overcome all things, suffer to pay the price for sin, then His body would be put to death, and He would over come death and take His body up again. The first of Heavenly Father's children to do so.

But in order to be put to death, Jesus would have to face the wrath of the Jews. However, they were restrained by the law and could not themselves kill Jesus. They had to be taken before the Roman authority.

That authority being Pontius Pilate. Pontius Pilate was also restrained by the law, he couldn't refuse the demand of the Jews to execute Jesus. Even though, he himself judged Jesus to be innocent.

He washed his hands of the affair wanting no part of it.

This is the reason why Jesus didn't teach the Romans about his divinity nor did they witness any miracles. Pontius Pilate didn't know who He was. And Jesus didn't tell him He was the Son of God nor did He perform any miracles in front of Pilate.

Had Jesus shown Pontius Pilate His divinity as He had the Jews, Pilate would never have given the order to crucify Jesus. And that was not the plan of God.

In the end, Jesus pleaded with His Father to forgive the Romans for their part in His death. The truth had been purposely with-held from them.

There is an argument to be made for Pontius Pilate, so don't be too quick to judge him.


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1 posted on 05/11/2017 6:24:05 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper

Why waste your time on Free Republic? You should be writing a book. Making a movie. Something big. Don’t waste your time here.


2 posted on 05/11/2017 6:28:22 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Don't be a pessimist, be an optometrist.)
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To: StormPrepper

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. ~John 18:36


3 posted on 05/11/2017 6:31:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: BipolarBob

How about shifting into you manic phase and posting again??


4 posted on 05/11/2017 6:33:01 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: StormPrepper

Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? ~Matthew 26:53


5 posted on 05/11/2017 6:33:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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6 posted on 05/11/2017 6:38:32 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("We tend to retreat into cheap moralizing when economic realities become uncomfortable.")
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To: BipolarBob

Quirky religious vanities used to be an everyday thing. Not so much, these days, so it’s kind of refreshing.


7 posted on 05/11/2017 6:40:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("We tend to retreat into cheap moralizing when economic realities become uncomfortable.")
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To: StormPrepper

Jesus didn’t perform any miracles in front of Herod either.


8 posted on 05/11/2017 6:41:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: StormPrepper

Give us Barabas


9 posted on 05/11/2017 6:45:41 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: BipolarBob

Why waste your time on Free Republic? You should be writing a book. Making a movie. Something big. Don’t waste your time here.
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Speak for yourself.


10 posted on 05/11/2017 6:46:23 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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12 posted on 05/11/2017 6:47:36 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is history)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You would be better served by addressing his argument rather than calling him a heretic. What exactly makes this an LDS issue?

I think he makes an interesting point.


13 posted on 05/11/2017 6:53:41 PM PDT by jimmyray (there is no problem so bad that you can't make it worse)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You know this because...?


14 posted on 05/11/2017 6:54:19 PM PDT by madison10
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To: StormPrepper
This is the reason why Jesus didn't teach the Romans about his divinity nor did they witness any miracles.

Are you aware that the centurion was a Roman for whom Jesus performed a miracle?

    When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.” Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?” The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment. (Matthew 8:10-13)

15 posted on 05/11/2017 6:56:21 PM PDT by boatbums (Authority has a way of descending to certitude, and certitude begets hubris.)
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To: jimmyray

We discussed something similar in Sunday School class last month certainly not LDS.


16 posted on 05/11/2017 6:56:54 PM PDT by madison10
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To: StormPrepper

My impression of Pilate, from reading Scripture and Josephus, is that he was a cynical, crooked politician, thoroughly corrupt and heartless. Sort of like Hillary Clinton, in other words, except that Pilate was actually competent.

That such a man realized that Jesus was innocent is amazing. That he didn’t have the courage to stand up to the crowd and to the Jewish leaders that threatened to trash him with his Roman masters is exactly how a corrupt politician would act today.


17 posted on 05/11/2017 7:00:10 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: StormPrepper

Get ready for the unleashing of the hounds of hell on you. But I will stand with you.

Not only do I believe Pilate was forgiven but so was Judas. And Jesus left it up to Judas to tell the others what he would do because he had to do it .... It was his destiny.


18 posted on 05/11/2017 7:00:11 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.,)
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To: boatbums

Excellent point, backed by scripture.


19 posted on 05/11/2017 7:01:47 PM PDT by jimmyray (there is no problem so bad that you can't make it worse)
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To: jimmyray
What exactly makes this an LDS issue?

The post, by a member of the mormon cult, states this:

This fact plays into God's plan for our salvation.

The mormon plan of salvation is false.

Jesus would come to earth, gain a physical body, learn through mortal experiences pain, anguish, temptation, and joy.

Mormonism teaches that Jesus was a created spirit being that had to come to earth to get a body, go through experiences, live a worthy life and then become a god - one of 4 earth gods - but one of millions or billions of gods.
The first of Heavenly Father's children to do so.

Mormonism falsely teaches that worthy mormons will follow this same path - in order to become gods. This is false.

He would overcome all things, suffer to pay the price for sin, then His body would be put to death, and He would over come death and take His body up again.

Mormonism teaches that the atonement for sins happened when Jesus sweat drops of blood in the garden - and not on the cross, as Scripture teaches.

20 posted on 05/11/2017 7:11:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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