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Past popes combated the errors of Muhammad. Francis praises them.
American Spectator ^ | April 26, 2017 | George Neumayr

Posted on 04/26/2017 6:15:25 PM PDT by ebb tide

Past popes combated the errors of Muhammad. Francis praises them.

As the prototypical progressive Jesuit, Pope Francis prides himself on his “ecumenism.” He oozes enthusiasm for every religion except his own. At the top of his list of favorite religions is the Church’s fiercest adversary — Islam.

He often sounds more like a spokesman for CAIR than a Catholic pope. After jihadists cut off the head of a French priest in July 2016 — yelling “Allahu Akbar” over the priest’s slit throat — Pope Francis rushed to the defense of Islam. “I don’t like to talk about Islamic violence, because every day, when I read the newspaper, I see violence,” he said, before ludicrously blaming the rise of terrorism on the “idolatry” of free-market economics: “As long as the god of money is at the center of the global economy and not the human person, man and woman, this is the first terrorism.”

As Europe turns into Eurabia, Pope Francis is picking up honors and awards from progressives, including, hilariously, the 2016 “Charlemagne Prize” for his Islamic apologetics. It is hard to imagine a Christian leader less like Charlemagne. Pope Francis is energized not depressed by the disappearance of Christian Europe. “States must be secular,” he told La Croix. Christian states, he said, “end badly” and go “against the grain of history.” He added that “when I hear talk of the Christian roots of Europe, I sometimes dread the tone, which can seem triumphalist or even vengeful.” It also takes on “colonialist overtones,” he complained.

The most liberal pope ever, of course, sees no irony in shilling for the most illiberal religion on Earth. On his anti-colonialist scorecard, Islam wears the white hats and Christian Europe, the black ones. After jihadists gunned down ten journalists at the offices of Charlie Hebdo, Pope Francis rushed to Islam’s defense again, in effect rebuking the dead journalists for incitement: “You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others.” Those who do, he continued, should “expect a punch.”

This week Pope Francis takes his pro-Islamic apology tour to Egypt. Previewing the trip, which starts on Friday, he said he seeks to “offer a valid contribution to inter-religious dialogue with the Islamic world.” Francis’s fawning media courtiers are already rolling out the propaganda for it, predicting that it will “build bridges to moderate Islam.”

“A main reason for the trip is to try to strengthen relations with the 1,000-year-old Azhar center that were cut by the Muslim side in 2011 over what it said were repeated insults of Islam by Francis’s predecessor, Pope Benedict,” according to Reuters. “Ties with the center were restored last year after [Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb] visited the Vatican. Tayeb, widely seen as one of the most moderate senior clerics in Egypt, has repeatedly condemned Islamic State and its practice of declaring others as apostates and infidels as a pretext for waging violent jihad.”

Being “one of the most moderate senior clerics in Egypt” is about as meaningful a distinction as being one of the most chaste Kardashian sisters. Useful idiots in the West call Tayeb moderate, but anyone paying attention knows that he is not, unless calling for the killing of apostates now counts as “moderate.”

As Raymond Ibrahim has written, “There’s nothing like knowing Arabic — that is, being privy to the Muslim world’s internal conversations on a daily basis — to disabuse oneself of the supposed differences between so-called ‘moderate’ and ‘radical’ Muslims.”

Ibrahim has listened to Tayeb’s speeches and comes away from them with the conclusion that Tayeb is a double-dealing phony. He trots off to the West to tell the gullible what “they want to hear” then returns to his mosque and Egyptian television studios to reaffirm traditional jihadist theology, writes Ibrahim:

[A]ll throughout the month of Ramadan last June, Tayeb appeared on Egyptian TV explaining all things Islamic — often in ways that do not suggest that Islam seeks “peace, encounter.”

… That this is the case was made clear during another of Tayeb’s recent episodes. On the question of apostasy in Islam — whether a Muslim has the right to abandon Islam for another or no religion — the “radical” position is well known: unrepentant apostates are to be punished with death.

Yet Tayeb made the same pronouncement. During another Ramadan episode he said that “Contemporary apostasy presents itself in the guise of crimes, assaults, and grand treason, so we deal with it now as a crime that must be opposed and punished.”

It has never been easier for orthodox Islamic clerics to take liberals for a ride. Salman Rushdie once bitterly remarked that the “face of moderate Islam” in Great Britain had called for his death.

Past popes regarded Islam as a font of poisonous heresies. Dante placed Muhammad in hell. St. Thomas Aquinas said Muhammad peddled “fables and doctrines of the greatest falsity” and sardonically remarked upon the perverse basis for his claim of divine favor: “Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms — which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants.”

What has changed? Nothing. Islam remains as violent as it started. But one thing is new: The Catholic Church, under the death-wish progressivism of Francis, has become one of Islam’s loudest boosters.

George Neumayr is author of the forthcoming book The Political Pope.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: francischurch; illegals; moslems; savages
He [Francis] often sounds more like a spokesman for CAIR than a Catholic pope. After jihadists cut off the head of a French priest in July 2016 — yelling “Allahu Akbar” over the priest’s slit throat — Pope Francis rushed to the defense of Islam. “I don’t like to talk about Islamic violence, because every day, when I read the newspaper, I see violence,” he said, before ludicrously blaming the rise of terrorism on the “idolatry” of free-market economics: “As long as the god of money is at the center of the global economy and not the human person, man and woman, this is the first terrorism.”

What has changed? Nothing. Islam remains as violent as it started. But one thing is new: The Catholic Church, under the death-wish progressivism of Francis, has become one of Islam’s loudest boosters.

1 posted on 04/26/2017 6:15:25 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

So true. It seems that the present Pope, Cardinals, Bishops and priests have forgotten history. In fact, they don’t even want to know the history of Islam in conflict with Christianity.


2 posted on 04/26/2017 6:20:50 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Parmy

While I am not a fiercely practicing Catholic I am a very conservative one and before now I would NEVER have criticized a Pope. Now I am ashamed to be a Catholic because of Francis. This man is an affront to Catholicism and nothing more than a political activist bent on destroying Catholicism and I wonder if he is on the payroll of George Soros.


3 posted on 04/26/2017 6:27:17 PM PDT by Castigar
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To: ebb tide

Past popes combated the errors of Muhammad. Francis praises them.
= = =

Bad grammer.

should say Francis praises him (him being Muhammad)

Francis does not praise ‘them’, the errors.

I am having a fit, because initially I interpreted Francis praises them, as them being past Popes, which did not agree with the content.

Well, maybe Francis did agree with the errors, but he did not consider them errors.


4 posted on 04/26/2017 6:30:09 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Castigar

I don’t know where the Church is going, either. But, it seems that it has lost its way. The old Church doesn’t exist, anymore. And, they can’t understand why their attendance is decreasing all around, except for Africa and the Far East.


5 posted on 04/26/2017 6:33:25 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: ebb tide

AFAICT Pope Marx has it totally back@sswRds.


6 posted on 04/26/2017 6:36:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ebb tide
On one occasion, Francis outrageously said...."if I speak of Islamic violence, I must also speak of Catholic violence".

He is an enemy of the Catholic faith who loathes Catholic tradition and those who embrace it.

7 posted on 04/26/2017 6:40:20 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: ebb tide

The dude is evil. Nothing else to say. Evil, evil man.


8 posted on 04/26/2017 6:41:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ebb tide
Past popes combated the errors of Muhammad. Francis praises them. As the prototypical progressive Jesuit, Pope Francis prides himself on his “ecumenism.”

This Lutheran who lived in Japan hoped, when the present Pope's name was announced, that he was thinking of a combination of Francis of Assisi and Francis Xavier, of a church that would combine the mercy of Assisi with the worldwide proclamation of the gospel of Xavier. That hope has gone from desperation to despair.

I don't know how to say this nicely, so I will just say it and hope it is not taken nastily. Yesterday, a person who spent 15 years trying to destroy me, and very nearly succeeding, died. I have waited for this moment for all those years, knowing that I am now free from this person's antagonism, because God has to act in His time, not in mine. I am beginning to feel the same about Pope Francis, that we will have to wait him out and get Christ's church back from the dead, as it were, because God acts in His time, not in ours.

9 posted on 04/26/2017 6:43:51 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: ebb tide
Which past (Vatican II) popes unapologetically combated Muslim errors?

I think the author must have meant past popes prior to Vatican II and did not mean to come across as merely focusing on Francis as the only Islam-loving Modernist-Ecumenist.

If he meant just Francis, then someone needs to set him straight. Muslims and their false religion have been held in high esteem since Vatican II.

10 posted on 04/26/2017 6:53:17 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: marshmallow

“if I speak of Islamic violence, I must also speak of Catholic violence”.

This is outrageous coming from any Christian leader. There are no examples of people committing violence because of their Christian faith. 68 percent of Muslims in ME support violence.


11 posted on 04/26/2017 7:36:58 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Scrambler Bob
Well, maybe Francis did agree with the errors, but he did not consider them errors.

That's no excuse for Francis; he also considers adultery to not being a reason for being denied Holy Communion.

His speeches, his interviews, his sermons, his encyclicals are nothing but errors, many of them outright heresies. But he does not consider them to be errors.

I actually think that he thinks he is God; not the successor of St. Peter.

12 posted on 04/26/2017 7:38:31 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

I wasn’t trying to make an excuse for Francis.

I was trying to make sense of the Headline.

And ended up making an excuse for the author/editor’s ambiguous and incorrect pronouns.


13 posted on 04/26/2017 7:45:42 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Scrambler Bob

The title was correct. You’re interpretation is wrong. “Errors” is not a pronoun.

Although Francis has recently praised Martin Luther; he has never, to my knowledge, praised Muhammad. He praises the moslem religion and all it’s errors.


14 posted on 04/26/2017 8:50:32 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Francis praises “them”.

What is the antecedent for “them”?

Is it “Popes”, or “errors”?

I claim the title is ambiguous because the antecedent can be either.

And the meaning of the title is exactly opposite, depending on which antecedent is assumed.

That’s all.

Pope is WAY off base, to be kind. No argument there.


15 posted on 04/26/2017 9:18:10 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Scrambler Bob

This is The American Spectator’s fault, not yours.


16 posted on 04/26/2017 9:19:26 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Scrambler Bob
And the meaning of the title is exactly opposite, depending on which antecedent is assumed.

And, if one reads the article, it doesn't take a genius to figure out, does it?

17 posted on 04/26/2017 9:22:09 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Well, that was kind of my point.

I made one assumption, and read the article, and was way confused.

So I had to go back and change my starting assumption.

And then I criticized the Title’s construction.

No good editor should have let that get by.


18 posted on 04/26/2017 9:26:02 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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