Posted on 04/13/2017 7:25:35 AM PDT by ebb tide
IMHO-—I think the Jesuits have lost their way.
I think the Hollywood idea of divorce has become almost mainstream today. They just jump from one marriage to another when the slightest differences begin to set in. You’re supposed to work around the differences, not use them as an excuse to jump ship. Like all traditional institutions, liberals have trivialized it. Still, God allowed for divorce in the Bible, even though He said “I hate divorce”. He was referring to husbands “putting away” their wives when they got tired of them, and getting a new one. Most divorces today are by mutual agreement.
About 8 years ago, reacting to a leftist interim minister, I wrote a song “Jesus Thinks a Lot Like Me.”
One of the simplest statements Jesus ever said is:
Matthew 5:31-32 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
31 “It was said, ‘Whoever sends his wife away, let him give her a certificate of divorce’; 32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
They did manage to find the Dark One quite easily.
Nonsense!
Stick to the Bible and the doctrine, as they are consistent and clear.
Give the Jesuits a few more years and they will be suggesting that Jesus, today, would be a pedophile.
I have wondered why fallible, mistake making humans are held to perfection in this one area of choosing a spouse.
I was as mistake prone there as most of my other endeavors primarily because of my ignorance.
Matthew 5:31-32 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
31 “It was said, ‘Whoever sends his wife away, let him give her a certificate of divorce’; 32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
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There is much to comment on about this. I will not be able to do it justice but I will try to add some wisdom. It is Easter Season. I am a believer.
Now, those things being said I will continue. The statements made about the believers writing down the words of the Apostles after they were gone it likely true, that there are errors in what they said or important things they said that are not recorded is too possible, but, we have what we have. To now try to pick apart and decide what is truth and what is not is impossible unless we have someone authorized by Christ Himself to make those changes, I'm not trying to be mean or disrespectful but I don't think the Pope is that.
I don't begin to promote myself as knowing more than others but, I do read the words of scripture and decide for myself what they mean. I'm not an idiot, I have changed what I think some things mean over time but I am for the most part unwilling to blindly accept what someone else says something means as Gospel just because they went to “Seminary”. Many of the ministers of various churches went to “Seminary” yet they teach different truths.
Now to get to the subject, divorce. I do not believe in the society of the United States that women get the short end of the stick in divorce. They get the short end of the stick when they have children with a man they are not married to and he leaves.
I am prejudiced. I have been divorced and I remarried a woman who has been divorced. I don't believe we are adulterers. My first wife went crazy. It may not have been anything she could help. After spending many tens of thousands of dollars on Dr's and Counselors we finally said enough is enough. Her father kept a secret family on the side and it ate her up, one Dr. said there was no way I could ever make the marriage work because of her past. I kept it together for 26 years. I felt I had God's blessing when I finally called it quits. My new wife was married to a man who suddenly decided he wanted to wear her clothes, he still dresses as a woman and has given himself a new woman's name. Paul is now Pauline. If you think Christ would judge her as unjustified in leaving Pauline then I think you are not being truthful.
If we sinned in our divorces, if we sinned in our remarriage then we like any other sinner can and hopefully should be forgiven.
Taking a sentence or two attributed to The Savior and then applying it to multitudes of situations does not always work.
On Sunday we celebrate Mary going to the tomb and finding it empty, then seeing the risen Lord. This is the most important, most wonderful thing that has ever happened in the history of the world.
Happy Easter!
Paul. No thanks.
Let's say a guy's wife wants to be rid of him.
Can she behave in an unchaste manner to provoke him into divorcing her, and then, since he has divorced her for an apparently legitimate reason, is she free to take up with another man and he with her?
Just because someone decides to alter what the Bible teaches doesn’t mean they know what they are talking about.
The arrogance of these people is incredible.
“But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace.” 7:15
Your cases were dealing with spouses who did not take God seriously it seems.
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Perhaps, it is not my job to judge anyone as a believer or not, however, I guess we all do that all the time. Fortunately our judgment is not meaningful, only The Lord can have meaningful judgement. Thank goodness!
At the time of Christ there were specific things that were considered for a lawful marriage. We don't do those things today because we aren't married under the “Jewish” law. We suppose that we are married under “Christian” law but, I'm not sure where we get the authorization to make changes to “God's” law. Nearly every Christian church has their own traditions or doctrines concerning marriage and most abandon those traditions and doctrines in favor of state law concerning marriage. If marriage by state law is not recognized by Christ as marriage then a lot of people are living in sin. If only certain churches can legally marry in “Christian Law”, then which church constitutes a valid marriage? I throw these out with my tongue placed firmly in my cheek, I'm not really throwing rocks, just making a few points for thought.
Today most Christian ministers, at least those outside the Catholic faith whether it be Roman, Eastern or Coptic are minister because they feel compelled or called by the Holy Spirit to be ministers of faith. I have no desire to take anything from these good people but, who decides on earth they are really called? In the Catholic churches there is at least a leader who claims this authority even if it is not the same person in each division. I like a place where the buck stops and where the leader can say with authority “Thus Saith The Lord”.
It is at least a very interesting topic of discussion and perhaps one of great importance.
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