Posted on 04/03/2017 2:58:51 PM PDT by NYer
Easter Sunday, the greatest liturgical feast of the year, has been celebrated on various days throughout the Church’s 2,000 year history and the scheduling has provided more than its share of controversy.
From the very beginning of the Church the feast of the Resurrection of Our Lord was celebrated in relation with the Jewish feast of Passover. Since the events of Christ’s Passion and resurrection occurred in that context, Christians have always felt that they should celebrate his resurrection in the same way, rather than a fixed date on the calendar.
However, over the centuries Christians have disagreed over the calculation of Passover and the Christian celebration of Christ’s resurrection. This means Easter (though most often celebrated on a Sunday) is celebrated on different dates each year by various Christians.
Pope Francis, as well as other Christian leaders, has called for a unification of a celebration of Easter and has expressed his openness to changing the date of celebration for the sake of unity.
In essence there are three main arguments as to when Easter should be celebrated.
14th Day of Nisan
According to Eusebius, there was a portion of the early Christian community that thought, “the 14th day of the moon, on which day the Jews were commanded to sacrifice the lamb, should always be observed as the feast of the life-giving pasch … contending that the fast ought to end on that day, whatever day of the week it might happen to be.”
Modern-day Jehovah’s Witnesses, while not celebrating the day of Jesus’ resurrection, have a similar dating of their celebration of Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross, observing the annual “Memorial of Christ’s death” on the 14th day of Nisan, whatever day of the week it might land on.
This practice in the Early Church of celebrating Easter on a weekday was quickly condemned, as most Christians believed Easter should be celebrated on the day of the week that is always associated with Jesus’ resurrection: Sunday.
Western Christianity
According to the norms established by the Council of Nicaea (325) and later adopted for Western Christianity at the Synod of Whitby, Easter Sunday falls each year on the first Sunday following the first full moon after the vernal equinox. This year, for example, the vernal equinox falls on Monday, March 20, and the first full moon after that occurs on Tuesday, April 11. The Sunday after that is April 16 and so Easter Sunday this year is celebrated on that day.
This calculation accepted by the Roman Catholic Church and most Protestant communities does not depend on the calculation of Passover according to the Jewish calendar. There are several different rules that regulate the Jewish celebration of Passover and Christians decided to differentiate themselves and rely on their own calculations.
Orthodox Calculation
As explained by Fr. Jon Magoulias at the Greek Reporter, the primary reason why the Orthodox calculation of Easter differs from the rest of Christianity is because the “Orthodox Church continues to follow the Julian calendar when calculating the date of Pascha (Easter). The rest of Christianity uses the Gregorian calendar. There is a thirteen-day difference between the two calendars, the Julian calendar being thirteen (13) days behind the Gregorian.”
Additionally, Fr. Magoulias notes that the Orthodox Church abides by a previous requirement that said the “Pascha must take place after the Jewish Passover in order to maintain the Biblical sequence of Christ’s Passion. The rest of Christianity ignores this requirement, which means that on occasion Western Easter takes place either before or during the Jewish Passover.”
On occasion the two dates coincide, “when the full moon following the equinox comes so late that it counts as the first full moon after 21 March in the Julian calendar as well as the Gregorian…[which occurred] in 2010, 2011, 2014 and 2017, but, after that, not again until 2034.”
After meeting with Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I in 2014, Pope Francis said to reporters, “Another thing we mentioned, that may be considered in the pan-Orthodox Council, is the date of Easter, because it is somewhat ridiculous to say, ‘When is your Christ resurrected? Mine was resurrected last week.’ Yes, the date of Easter is a sign of unity.”
Since then Pope Francis has expressed in other meetings with Orthodox Churches his desire for a unified celebration of Easter so that Christians could witness to the world more strongly.
This year, however, the celebration providentially falls on the same day and Christians around the world will celebrate Easter on April 16, 2017.
It came from the Apostles, and is noted in the Bible ("in the spirit on the Lord's Day" and the like). Even the SDAs admit now that Sunday worship became the norm in the late apostolic age. Ignatius of Antioch (a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of John) congratulates his readers in one of his epistles for "no longer sabbathing".
You guys are just re-inventing heresies that were disposed of by the Church, the Church which Christ himself founded, back in the First Century.
That turns out to be basically speculation. Nobody can locate any temples of this supposed "goddess," no cult of Eastra or Eostre, no priesthood, etc. As far as can be positively determined, it's just an old Germanic word for "dawn", probably cognate to the cardinal direction in which the sun rises.
And, as you allude, it's only in English, Dutch, Norwegian (I think), and some western German dialects that "Easter" is called anything that sounds like "Easter". In Greek, Latin, and the languages derived from it, it's "pascha" or some variant of it, all clearly derived from the word "Pesach" or Passover. The holiday whose dating Constantine ruled on was called in is decree "Pascha". The decree is online in the original Greek; it's easy to verify.
Please specify the date and other circumstances on which the Jews changed their weekly Sabbath observance to correspond to “Rome’s Saturday”. When did it happen? How did it happen? Can you show me some trace of this event in history?
Not sure when it started.But it happens today.
It’s the blindness that comes from conformity to the world (Romans 12)
The 1st Sabbath observed by Israel, recorded in the Scriptures, happened on the 22nd Day of the 2nd month.(Exodus 16)
Simple counting means the 16th through 21st days are the days the manna fell- then the 22nd Day Sabbath.
Btw, The 22nd Day of the 7th month is also a ‘Sabbath’ in the Scriptures.
Coincidence?
No.
If we take that first Sabbath and back up 7 days, we see the 15th Day is a Day they didn’t receive the manna- they were promised the meat and bread on that day, though-Exodus 16)
Btw, The 15th Day of the 1st and 7th months is also a ‘Sabbath’ in the Scriptures.
Coincidence?
No
The manna first fell on the 16th day through to the 21st Day ,of the 2nd month in Exodus 16.
That is prophetic, but Judaism or Christianity probably can’t see it.
It is a shadow of what has been happening for the last 2,000 years. Where the Bread of Life was raised from the dead on the 16th Day of the 1st month, the 1st day of the Father’s 3rd week.
That 3rd week follows what the Son did in the 2nd prophetic week.
The 3rd week is a prophetic week that the Holy Spirit has been working to Convict the world of sin, righteousness and judgment.
And if the Father’s pattern holds, that work will be completed on the 21st day, the 6th Day of Our Creator’s 3rd week.
Then comes the 7th Day Sabbath- scripture calls it the ‘8th’ Day or the 22nd Day.
The Work of Creation (Father) finishing on the 7th Day (old versions of Genesis 2) is not an accident or an error in bible translations- it is a pattern.
The Work of Redemption(Son) finishing on the 14th Day (Passover) is not an accident- it is a pattern.
The Work of Convicting the World (Holy Spirit) finishing on the 21st day (day before the ‘8th’ Day) is not an accident or an error- it is a pattern.
A pattern that explains why He told Israel to ‘Remember the Sabbath Day’.
Because some day they would forget.
A pattern that explains why there are 22 letters in the Hebrew alephbet.
And His Son, The Word Made Flesh, came and showed us exactly what the Father’s pattern and design is.
So, did Christ die for our sins on Good Friday, in accordance with Rome and its catechism and calendar?
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Did Christ die for our sins on Passover, in accordance with the Scriptures and the Father’s calendar?
Judaism may reject Jesus but they accept Rome’s Friday.
Good Friday does not equal Passover and Passover does not equal Good Friday.
That is easily observed by people today, just by looking at the pope gregory calendar, as they don’t fall on the same days all the time.
But Judaism doesn’t understand that Passover, the 14th Day, is always the Father’s 6th work day. Regardless of where it falls on the pope’s calendar. It is the Day the Son finished His Work. Always.
Until they see that, they will have trouble seeing the Word Made Flesh. Same is true for Muslims and even Christians.
He is the only One who gives sight to those who have been born blind or have been become blind by conformity to the world.
All for His Glory!
Since we are no longer under the Law, we can worship whatever day we like, but I think you would admit that resting on the 7th day has been God's day from the beginning. Every day is God's day for me as a believer, but there is a day that I go to meet with my brethren to worship and be in His presence. No matter how it was changed, God will change it back to the proper day when He rules and reigns for 1000 years. The point is, man changed it, not God. Was it under the influence of the Holy Spirit or Satan. I believe Satan does all he can to foul up the plans of God. The whole premise of this thread was Easter. Easter is definitely, no doubt about it, not any celebration of God's Feast days. it comes from paganism. Just as Christmas has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus, Easter is connected to Babylonian paganism.
To make things simple, I look at things as Biblical or Babylonian. If it's not Biblical, it's Babylonian. The Greeks called their gods names that don't match the Romans, but they all represent the same gods out of Babylon. Nimrod was a type and shadow of the Beast that comes in Revelation. Rev 6:2 is him. He comes on a white horse, just as Jesus will, but he has a bow and a crown was given to him. Nimrod was a hunter. What isn't spelled out to the reader is that he hunted people. The crown he was given was by the world and he took over the world militarily. Satan is said to be a liar, but what we don't dwell on enough is that he is a counterfeiter. The Beast will be a counterfeit Jesus, accepted as god to the world. Jesus said He came in His fathers name and you don't believe, yet when someone comes in his own name, you will believe.
Women in the Bible are churches or denominations. A widow or divorced woman is Israel, virgins are the Bride of Christ, But Thyatira, in Rev2:18, is the daughter of Nimrod. That is the real name of Nimrod's daughter. So this church that is a spawn of Nimrod is the RCC church. It is a mixture of Christianity and Babylon. She has the Spirit of Jezebel there to worship idols. Worshiping Mary, Peter, John, and all these dead people instead of Jesus is fornication to God. Statues to bow before, finger bones and other relics, and more stuff I don't even care to write about is nothing more than idol worship. This is why God made graven images verboten right off the bat. Forbidding to marry is doctrines of demons( 1 Tim 4:1-5) 1 Tim 2:5 specifically tells you to ONLY pray to Jesus. Mary has no more influence on God than any other person. The blood of Jesus bought us access to the Throne Room of God. The veil is torn and we can walk right in. The Bible says I am a saint. I don't have to be voted on by anyone. I am part of the Royal Priesthood. I don't have to be of the tribe of Judah or Levi to hold this position. There are no popes in the Bible, nor cardinals, nor nuns. James was the leader of the church after Jesus ascended and can be verified anywhere except catholic writings. Peter was just another Apostle starting churches, no different than Paul and the others. That would necessarily mean a misreading of Mat 16:13-19. Peter was told by God that Jesus was the Christ and that was what the new church would be based on. The revelation of the Holy Spirit that Jesus is Lord is the only way to be saved and belong to the new church. It's the Holy Spirit in us that resurrects our dead spirit so that we can commune with God once again. The indwelling of the Holy Spirit makes us Sons of God, able to hear and speak to God as it was in the Garden of Eden. Sons of men cannot do that and have no part in Heaven. I could write a book quoting Scripture that proves the RCC is NOT the universal church, but I won't waste anymore keystrokes on people that have been fooled. One last verse :
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
Rev 18:6 Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her.
Rev 18:7 In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, 'I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.'
Rev 18:8 Therefore her plagues will come in one day--death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
Rev 18:9 "The kings of the earth who committed fornication and lived luxuriously with her will weep and lament for her, when they see the smoke of her burning,
Rev 18:10 standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying, 'Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.'
There are Christians in the RCC but they MUST leave or they are saying their allegiance is to the RCC and not Jesus. The Catholic church doesn't save you, Jesus does. You have an idol before you and you must ditch it. You know the city on 7 hills is Rome. You know the pope and the Vatican will burn if Rome burns. You must come out of her. The Whore of Babylon is the RCC. She is riding the Beast and will receive the wrath of God. 1 Peter 5:13 was written from Rome. Peter is spelling out for you that Rome is Babylon.
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We go back a long time here, so I know you’re far more aware than your post would indicate.
The choice of using a name of a pagan ‘goddess.’ and traditional time instead of the Scriptural name of the feast, and observed time cannot be seen as accidental.
How can you embrace replacement of scriptural reality with paganism?
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>> “I understand the Apostles met on Sunday, the first day of the week” <<
That is definitely not what the word says.
The places where coming together on the first day of the week are mentioned, it is for the purpose of bringing money, which is forbidden to be carried on the Sabbath.
The Acts makes it plain that all worshipful gatherings were on “every Sabbath day.”
Everything in the Acts is clearly centered on adherence to Torah.
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Believers do no such thing!
Yeshua arose at sunset at the close of the Sabbath, what would be called Saturday evening by the current calendar.
Sunday (sungod’s day) means nothing but the first work day of the week to those that live by Yehova’s word.
We do not celebrate by the day of the week, but by the Biblical calendar, which is agricultural in nature, and what we celebrate is the Passover, not the pagan fertility rite easter.
The beginning of the Biblical year, Aviv, is determined by the ripeness of the Barley on the western slopes of the Mount of Olives. The barley must be ripe enough at the new moon that begins the year to grind flour to make the loaves that are required to celebrate Passover.
Easter will keep you in good standing with the Father of Lies.
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Thank you Mr Pharisee
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BTW, The official language of Yeshua’s Assembly (Kehillah) is Hebrew, the language of our creator.
He has no “church.”
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Saturday is never mentioned as the Sabbath. The SDA’s only use Fri night/Saturday because modern Jews use it.
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Correction: Anti-Pharisee!
The pastors of the churches, the Nicolaitans, are essentially christian Pharisees.
Phariseeism is essentially what has put a wall between christianity and Yeshua’s sheep. Man made rules, creeds, and rote prayers without meaning, completely rejecting Yeshua’s narrow path.
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The Sabbath is not to be found on the pagan Roman calendar.
It begins at sundown “Friday” and ends at sundown “Saturday.”
Read the Acts to get familiar with Yeshua’s way.
It accurately describes how the apostles all kept Yehova’s commandments.
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Friday and Saturday are never mentioned in the Bible. You are only following modern Jews. If Moses had it on a different day and it changed during the Babylonian exile, you would never know it.
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You are confused.
Of course Roman days are not mentioned.
That is precisely the point. We live by Yehova’s calendar, and his commandments.
Nothing has been changed. Yeshua said so and I believe him.
I do not follow any modern Jew, nor any pagan “christian.”
Phariseeism is what is tripping you up. Yeshua rejected every shred of it, but all of organized christianity follows it by mimicking it. The sole difference being that they call their ‘Rabbis’ Pastor.
Man made religion at every level.(Jews and Christians)
I follow what the apostles demonstrated in the Acts; no more, no less. That is Yeshua’s path.
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Oy Vay!
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Oy day of Trumpets without the ‘garment.’
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