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To: nonsporting

Yes, it does. The Greek text uses words which translate as “gather”, “catch up”, and “reap”. (We get “rapture” from the Latin translation of “catch up”. See 1 Thess 4 below).


I suppose you could call it a rapture, but it does not teach people that any one will be caught up with out dying.

This is all explained in 1 Cor 15, most of the chapter in opposition to the one short scripture 1 Thess 4:17


56 posted on 03/25/2017 10:03:11 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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To: ravenwolf
"I suppose you could call it a rapture, but it does not teach people that any one will be caught up with out dying."

50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and WE SHALL BE CHANGED. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality,

60 posted on 03/25/2017 10:27:46 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I've wasted enough time eating mushrooms and conversing with hookah smoking caterpillars.)
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To: ravenwolf
I suppose you could call it a rapture, but it does not teach people that any one will be caught up with out dying. This is all explained in 1 Cor 15, most of the chapter in opposition to the one short scripture 1 Thess 4:17

No need to argue any such propositions. These passages are describing the same events. Flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Cor 15:50) But the resurrected will (flesh and bone -- see Luke 24:39)

Those who are alive and remain will be resurrected. You can argue fine points whether these physically die in the process of resurrection. All believers will put off this sinful flesh and will be fully redeemed. (Ephesians 1:14)

70 posted on 03/25/2017 2:25:07 PM PDT by nonsporting
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